Vagrein:
Good out to you. We are pleased to be meeting with in this fashion and are eager to discuss with you. Anything you so choose to know more of yourself. Hello.

Questioner:
Hello, thank you so much for being with us. I love meeting new beings, and so this is a great honor always to connect with you. And we just discussed, Jesse and I, about people feeling disconnected, people feeling separate from one another. This could have always been so for humanity on Earth specifically, or is it that right now,

More than ever, there is this grand feeling of disconnection and separateness. If so, why do so many people feel and experience this right now?

Vagrein:
Yes, it is a good question. And it is true that humans have experienced separation consciousness for the duration of their existence. There have been moments, yes, in which it was attempted to achieve unity consciousness. That has not been the case for humanity as of yet. And it is not that you are perceiving of more separation now, it is that the veil towards unity has thinned.

And therefore, in that temptation of stepping into unity, it seems as if the separation contrast, the one that you live in, has become more difficult to tolerate. So it is because you have been sort of had the tester or the taster of unity consciousness. And it is that the much more almost on the horizon for you that separation is beginning to feel so intolerable.

And so persistent. It is also because, in the same way, there are last attempts by an old system to maintain itself. Your separation elements are seeming to be things that you do not necessarily want to leave behind. This is simply because there is fear that you will lose individuation. However, the move that you are stepping into.

does not mean that you must sacrifice. In fact, it means that you must accept and embrace individuation within unity, more so than lose it in the lack of separation.

Questioner:
Is there the biggest, the greatest misunderstanding that humanity currently holds about itself that you can clear up for us? What is it that you observe, this great misunderstanding that humanity holds?

Vagrein:
Well, it is and has been quite absurd that you believe yourselves to be separate at all. Because even if you think of the planet, you are an organism, one organism that is not able to extract any one element of itself in terms of humanity without ruining or eliminating the possibility of being complete. Now, that does not mean that you do not live and die and cells do not replace themselves, etc. But you are indeed one organism.

When you understand this, you will see how foolish it has been to believe otherwise.

Questioner:
So I'm listening to you. ⁓ I'm fascinated, usually a little bit by myself. I typically feel like I'm very upbeat, very positive, very optimistic. I stay in this world that I work in, travel in, stay in, all of the things, and it's a very good world. And I do feel a great deal of hope. The one area where I get wobbly is when I think about these institutions.

And I don't actually know the correct name, but I know out in the world sometimes they're called cabal, dark state, illuminati. I'm not so sure it's the Illuminati, but these are basically old, old money people who operate out of greed and fulfilling self, ⁓ with complete disregard to the planet itself and to humanity, and for the betterment of both.

And they have their own agenda. That's one place where I get very wonky. And I'm not sure if that would be called separation, but it really is the one place I wonder with all the good news, how will that ever get cleaned up? How will that ameliorate itself? How will that how will the light win against that, or not even against that, but with that?

Vagrein:
Yes. So the word with is correct. There is simply a misunderstanding, and it is an honest misunderstanding when it comes to these organizations, both on planets and off. Because what you are forgetting is that on the grander level, all of these beings are also divine, all of these beings are also benevolent. They are simply playing a role, taking a costume out of the closet and putting it on for an incarnation, in order

To awaken everyone. Same way that someone who puts on the costume of an angel or the costume of Lightbringer is attempting to awaken humanity. Those negative aspects of humanity, which you perceive of as negative, or the horrific things that you hear of, or the concept of greed, or the concept of selfishness, etc., is in fact a catalyst of the awakening that is underway. Without these beings taking on the role of the villain, you would have.

No understanding of what darkness was in the first place, and therefore would not be able to make an educated choice as to which way you yourself as an individuation want to go. Therefore, these beings can be seen as not selfish, not generous in their ways of hoarding, but part of the whole. By the way, as the planet continues into separation, these beings too.

Have no lifeline. If they succeed in the things they're attempting to do, the control of humanity or the destruction of the resources, et cetera, et cetera, they too are on the losing end of that organism. But in the same way that there must be a villain in any storyline for it to be interesting, these beings have been created to volunteer into the role of the bad guy so that you can understand how to become the good guy.

How does one merge this into unity consciousness? First step, and this is a step you can take now, is the deep understanding of unity consciousness, even in regards to the things that you do not like as your preference. You are allowed to hold preference as soon as you allow yourself to let go of judgment. You will find these things unravel much faster than you expect them to. And as they unravel, they are reintegrated back into the unity.

Not everything needs to be light, in fact, everything needs to be neutrality, perfect neutrality, in the same way that how that is sees it. And in that you have your nitty consciousness. And in that you have the ability for a collective to come into a space where, with their own free will, each and every individual has now come to a state of harmony.

There's There is no longer need for them, in other words.

Questioner:
Yes. Yeah, I really appreciate that. That feels so important to me because there's a lot of polarization with things that I hear out there ⁓ that are misnomers where people will say things like, you know, all grays are bad. ⁓ the reptilians, you know, they're the bad guys. And I'll sit there and really.

Vagrein:
It does not resonate, does it?

Questioner:
There's tens of thousands of species of both, if not more than that. And that's like saying all humans are bad or all anything is bad. That's impossible. And so I feel like you're taking this to the next step when you say that to neutral become Switzerland, become neutral over this. And the less I polarize or judge or separate with these beings, and it's big. It is.

Big to say they are divine. They came here to play a role. They are enacting this beautiful role that they came here to play. And I also felt like it was very important when you said that the more we step into this neutrality, but also the lack of separation, the more of integration, the less they have to play the villain against. Is that correct?

Vagrein:
Indeed.

Questioner:
And you know, anyone who's listening, I just want to say this doesn't have to be about the dark the dark deep state. This doesn't have to be about anything that collective. It could be about your family member, somebody at work. It all tracks across any situation. How can people do that then? How can you said the one step, just pull back the judgment, the separation, all that, see the divinity in them. Is there anything else

that we can implement in order to achieve that neutrality and also that lack of attachment.

Vagrein:
Yes, so it can be hard, we know, to look directly at things that are not of your preference and to stay in your light. In fact, the first impulse is to in yourself step into more separation. In other words, when you see something that you do not like, an impulse is to say all the reasons why that is wrong and you are wrong. That is separation in and of itself. Instead, use every time you see something that you do not like, not as an excuse to fight against that thing.

But as motivation, take all of your disappointment or anger that you have with that situation or circumstance and push that energy, which is a grand energy, into you being more you, into you creating more of your art, for example, or you spending better time and more focused time with your friends, for example, for you writing that novel, for example, for you creating that website, for example, for you telling that person that they are beautiful, for example, whatever it might be.

Every single time you are tempted to step into polarity, instead focus all of that energy onto the things that you have already determined are your light onto the world. If each and every person were to do this, can you imagine how quickly you would have amazing new novels or people feeling good about themselves or friendships that were blossoming, et cetera, et cetera? Do not waste your energy on separation.

Questioner:
Hmm, I like that. Channeling our energy into something that is beneficial, that is creative, that brings up the joy, the passion, and stay in that high frequency. Beautiful, beautiful. So then next, what does it truly mean to occupy our unique place within humanity's energetic grid?

Vagrein:
Occupying your place is doing nothing more than being truly yourself. Now that can also be yourself as you find yourself right in this now moment. It does not mean a perfect self. It does not mean that you have it all figured out. It means a state of acceptance with the what is as the piece of clay that you currently are beginning to mold. Because from each next down moment, you are given a new piece of clay, which is yourself, that you can ask yourself, who do I want to be in the next five seconds? Who do I want to create myself into in the next moment and a half?

And from there, accept that you can choose to be in your uniqueness, in your own space, not letting your mind make your decisions, but really placing yourself in your heart and following that thing that you know to be you, following your resonance and following your love.

Questioner:
All right. Well, we've established that humanity is moving through some very profound change. That is definitely sure. Is there a larger transformation that's unfolding beneath the surface? Give us the good news, all the good news we may not be aware of when we're so buck up against what is experiencing.

What is maybe people are reacting to, but there's something much more profound, much larger. What is hap actually happening right now? We're here to listen to it all.

Vagrein:
Yes. So the goodest news, goodest the best news is that you are the one writing the script as you go along. Now that can also feel like an overwhelming piece of news, but it is good news in that even those grandest under the surface things that are occurring are occurring because you have wanted a mon wonderful adventure of your life. You have wanted to be here at a time when there is transformation, and you are the star of the show.

You are the hero of this particular chapter. And so as you move into any transitions that are coming your way, know that it is what you are writing and that you have every capability that you could possibly need to rise to any occasion that may occur for and with you. And to enjoy it as it comes along, even if it is challenging, even if it is something you've never seen before. Because the truth is that you have been writing this script all along as you have come in here.

More so, as you decide more and more to be you, your life will become more and more fun, more and more playful, more and more exciting to you. You will have new characters come in that you could not have possibly imagined, though you always dreamed you would want to meet. So there's much good news on the horizon, even if there's much adventure potentially, as you step into timelines that are adventurous in nature.

Questioner:
Mm-hmm. Yes. I feel and I sense all of that. And wondering about timelines. And of course, I'm spoke speaking to you in this moment. So I understand you can ascertain something in this moment, this breath as a timeline. I'm hoping that in my life, ⁓ how whatever decades, however many decades I have left, that I'm going to experience.

True disclosure, being part of the galactic community, experiencing peace on this earth. I understand you're saying I am writing the play, I am starring in the play. ⁓ so with that in mind, because I don't want to give my power away with this question, but I really want this to happen in my lifetime and and beautiful health and a clean earth, you know, clean food, clean water, all of that, free energy.

What are the possibilities truly in the next twenty, thirty, forty years?

Vagrein:
They're extremely high, in that all of that is available to you. And we would say that you do not give away your power by asking the question, but you do give away your power by wanting it and not simply accepting that it is. And so as you come to a space of accepting that it is, you will have the experience that are in alignment with it becoming evident to you. Disclosure or any of these aspects, even your own psychic abilities, will not appear from one day to the next.

They are on a gradient because there is a desire to make it tolerant to your system. Therefore, if you can allow yourself to stop wanting and to start knowing that it is occurring, you will begin to have more psychic evidence of it on a personal level. Whether or not the collective itself will get a news broadcast within the next 10 years, which is yes, also entirely likely, but whether or not they will get a collective broadcast within

The next 10 years from their new stations actually is irrelevant compared to your own preparation for disclosure on a personal level. Because for you, you will have disclosure, what you are calling disclosure, first on psychic levels, then on levels that can be doubted, for example, dream state, and then yes, physical situations that again can be doubted, because there is also the law of doubt. In terms of free will, you are already ready. You would like this to occur.

But there are certain other criteria in play that need be respected, at least for now, because the rules are as they are for now, and each and every one of you listening to this, instead of wanting aliens to visit you anymore, simply know that they already are and look for evidence of it.

Questioner:
Yeah, that's very powerful when you say that about ⁓ as we know and our psychic abilities and the many waves of this to occur, these connections to occur. Just this Sunday night we went out to dinner with friends, and one of my friends said, ⁓ my God, did you see what was on Instagram? And he pulled up a picture for me to look at. It was the Economic Times, economic news.

Had a picture of a UFO and it was over a soccer field. So right now, around the planet, it's very big for people who are into football or this sport called soccer. And it was showing that at one of the playoffs of soccer, that a craft was gonna hover. It was a prediction from, I believe, a channeler. And I was amazed that the Economic Times chose to run with this. And I thought,

This is good news. This is how these things start to infiltrate. do you have any information on that?

Vagrein:
Well, we do have information that all of your news sources are now deliberately non-credible simply because of the requirements of the law of confusion. This is also why you are seeing so much AI-generated content in this now moment. Because when disclosure occurs, the majority of you still will not believe it. And that is on purpose.

Because you need to be able to decide individually, each and every one of you, for yourself. Which is why what we would say true disclosure is that deep knowledge that you are indeed interacting on the psychic level with these beings, which is the first level of contact. Physical contact does not even need to occur with the majority of these beings, because the majority of these beings are also non-physical and physical simultaneously.

They have completely different experience of physical existence. And so when you are in a space of disclosure and receiving the help that is being offered to you, it will be on a gradient. Many people will still be in a space of not wanting to believe, and others will be in a space of wanting to believe. But your news story in the Financial Times is indeed, or in the economic times, is indeed part of this softening of the

credibility, or not even the credibility, but of the rigidness of your new sources so as to make disclosure more and more possible.

Questioner:
That's beautiful. I feel it like it's all a contribution right now, leading us up to the the great thing. I like that very much, the softening. And I have had these experiences you're referring to and I know they're real. They're very real. The dreams and the visits and the unprecedented experiences and craft, seeing craft, many different kinds of craft and

Seeing a giant orb, which was not an angel orb, but as a an actual species and ⁓ so much, so much that makes me feel incredibly honored. So I want to know more about you. What are you guys like? What are you like? What is your art? What is your music? What is it like being you? What how do you treat each other?

Vagrein:
So we are not exactly a group or a collective. We are referred to as such because if we were to say that we were one, which likely is more accurate, then you would perceive of individuation. Instead, we do not exist beyond when the radio broadcast, so to speak, is being transmitted. So what is known as Val Green is simply an energy frequency that encompasses more of the all that is than act.

Accessible normally by human consciousness. It is a thread that runs through all things and all beings. So it is not directly related to any sort of species or star system or density of consciousness specifically, but instead to a frequency of energy that is beyond space and time. So we do not have music or relationships with oneself because we are simply an aspect of universal consciousness.

We know that this is a difficult concept and it does mean we have to make shortcuts in the describing of what we are at times. But what we can say is the only reason that we exist at all is because collective consciousness of the human race has called us through to deliver these messages in this way. Outside of that, there is no existence that one with a human mind could perceive of.

Questioner:
So interesting. So does that mean that you have a soul contract with Jessie? And did you know Jessie before this incarnation?

Vagrein:
So it is a good question. No one has asked it yet, but we would not even say that we have what is considered a soul, because there is no individuation that would then have a soul, and there's no individuate soul. Instead, it is simply what you would perceive of as personality. But again, all of the personality aspects of us that can be perceived are because the vessel that we are inhabiting does have some residue of personality, so to speak.

It is simply energy that flows through that is delivering answers that are of a higher consciousness level, but that do not necessarily have their own soul or individuation in any way whatsoever. That said, Jessie does have a contract in her theme and her mission to provide this sort of service. And it is, yes, involving other beings.

But not necessarily us, we are simply the radio station that is accessed.

Questioner
Amazing. May I ask when Jessie made that challenge on her 40th birthday and said prove it? It feels like there was more. What was going on that was so powerful that that cinched the deal, if you will, that you felt ⁓ I know it's not a you, you've explained that, but your energy said it is time to come through. What transpired inside of Jesse for that to happen?

Vagrein:
Consent. That is all that we were waiting for in that. Up until that point, there was not consent to come through. There was only consent to have symbols or experiences of the possibility of our existence. At that moment, there was a brief window of consent, because we would not have violated free will. And so that was when it was the right opportunity to move into the showing her that it is possible.

showing her that there's the capability. In the same way, for example, a runner or a any child who is standing around does not know that they can run until they attempt to run. That was her first attempt at running, and it turns out simply that her body and brain are made to do this particular sort of sprint.

Questioner:
Wow, it's really inspiring. Thank you. So inspiring for folks who want to do this to understand it's just consent to say, it's okay, let's go, let's do this. Yes. And if all the people who are listening today could remember one thing about who they truly are, what would it be? What would you share?

Vagrein:
Yes. We would share that you did not create you. Yes, on a soul level you did, but you do not even know your soul to such an extent that you can claim that that is the you that you believe is the one that created you. Often, from the human perspective, you're sitting around with lots of shame or guilt about your life up until this point. It is inaccurate to have it because you could not be you without every single experience that you have had up until this moment. So the moment you are feeling shame about your past or you're feeling guilt about your past or whatever it might be.

You are simply staying in your past as opposed to understanding that that character, that story, was required for you to arrive at the point in which you are. If you can understand that the point in which you are is imperfection, no matter what you believe it to be, that it is ready for you to step into your divine nature and in itself, even with all your foibles or your quirks or your faults, is perfection, then you can begin to be the creator that lives through your own vessel and no longer believe yourself to be some sort of small victim.

To existence itself or to even worse, what you believe you have done in your life. You have done nothing up until this now moment. Everything that you have done is erased immediately as soon as it is done, because there only is this now moment. Therefore, if you can really grasp that, you can say, Wow, look at this gift I've been given, that I am in the front seat of all of creation, consciousness itself, wanted to be nothing else other than exactly what I am perceiving in this now moment. From this space, you can then create whatever it is you want next.

Questioner:
I've heard it said that as we have massive healings in this particular lifetime, if there are other incarnations out there concurrently not doing so well, we can actually heal them or if you will.

In my words, they melt away. I'm wondering how to best work with our multidimensional selves, maybe interdimensional selves, to create the greatest upliftment for ourselves right now. Is there a technique? Are there tips, secret sauce? How can we do that to create the very best life now for us, but also concurrently across all dimensions and times?

Vagrein:
Well, here is a fun fact for you. Every other self that you run into in this now moment on your planet, your mother, your friend, your partner, your child, your neighbor, your least favorite politician is a multidimensional version of you. So you actually within this particular lifetime have access to witnessing.

What your own transformation can do. And this concept of yes, if you uplift the light in yourself, you are melting away those other versions that are not quite reaching for that light is applicable even on your planet. Can you understand how powerful the recognition of this is? That if you devote your life to the uplifting of this light within yourself.

You are literally transforming every other version of self that is on your current planet, in your current incarnation, simultaneously. This is what we mean by you are creating your reality because you literally are and do influence all of these other selves. Since there is no time and space outside of the physical, every single reincarnation is simultaneous, which means too that you have been reincarnated.

as every single version of every single person that you currently know. Beautiful. Because then if they are all you, then all you in this consciousness have to do is uplift yourself.

Questioner:
Hmm. I really enjoyed this. I got a lot out of this conversation. We are going to thank you. Yes. Thank you for your service and thank you for your generosity for sharing all of that. I hope you'll come back so we can have a conversation. Beautiful.

Vagrein:
Thank you. And we leave you with the lighted love of a thousand suns, Anainai