Good Now to you.
Q00: We are pleased to be joining you in this format. That it has been sometime since we have has the opportunity to discourse with you as a group and you have had the opportunity to hear one another and hear how you discourse. How you interact. There have been many individual conversations however there have not been those that have had the impact of your interaction of the energies of you as individuals with one another. There is a richness to having a shared experience for though each shared experience is still completely colored by your own perception of it. There is the ability to reflect and multiply. The richness of what you are learning through it. We are eager and keen to begin to converse with you. We are hoping that you have clarity and would like to arrive at more of your own clarity, through the reflection that we may offer.

At this point, if there is the will and desire for you to guide the transmission or conversation in a specific direction we would invite you to make that known.

Host: [15:05 15:05] Ok So we have the first question, James I am going to unmute you now. You can proceed.

Q01: [ James' friend, noisy audio] Yeah I just wanted to say thank you Vagrein for the opportunity, very very grateful to have this opportunity. To ask questions. My question is that the many different races that we have we got maturing and but with the [ words missing] arcturians, There is so much information that has been channeled coming through social media etc. And the information from the various groups, differ greatly and so my question was how much is it influenced by the person doing the channeling. From the information coming through.

V: [16:22 16:22] There are many variables, for answering this particular question, the example that we may give to you is that while you have many beings on your planet who would all call themselves human, they each of them would describe humanity differently, if they had to go and describe it to another populous. Each of you given the opportunity, and the idea that it was important to transmit the truth would go with ' What is the truth to you" and share that, this truth would be received and interpreted by the other populous who does not have a frame of reference and would no matter the source of the information, believe that to be true as it was true to that who was delivering the information.

You add in the technology and by technology here we mean the vessel and the personality complex of the being that is able to receive the message, imagine them to be similar to a telephone, and if there is static on the phone while the information that is being transmitted as true from the being on the other end of the phone perhaps there are words that are missed or heard differently than they were delivered, and thereby there is much distortion. But it is not that there is necessarily only the distortion that comes through the technology of the telephone, but the bias or individuation or specificity of the source it self. Because if you were passionate about tennis, and you were asked to describe humanity to another race, you may mention tennis, because it is something you are passionate about.
Someone who is not passionate about tennis would omit this information entirely, that there is this sport, that you play that is called tennis.

The two beings on the other end of the telephone, on two different telephones would perhaps then discuss and argue as to whether or not tennis was an important factor or the race they were describing. It is indeed important to one part of that, or one element of that and therefore yes, important to all of it but it is not the only important factor. So when you are getting information from different sources there will be the variation of the individuation, of the elements of those sources and yes, there are some populous who are more unified and therefore will have less distortion in this way. But it you were to ask anything about humans to any portion of humanity you would get very different responses, because there is bias, because there is differentiation.

So who is the message coming from ?
What is is coming though ?
and
What is interpreting it at the other end or the phone ?

These three factors,are what makes the information. The information itself, is never going to be the whole picture. The information itself never can be the whole picture. So the next question would logically be how can you discern what it true and what is not ?

Well that is where you as a receptive element of this universe, or multiverse, comes into play, because the only way you can discern what is true and what is not is how it resonates within you. Truth, The truth of all that is will always resonate as truth. If a truth comes to you and you believe you have to argue it with some other being it means that there is some part of you that does not believe it is true. Therefore you feel that you have to convince someone else of it but you would never have to convince someone else of the truth. There would be no need. So when you find yourself, doubting a truth that you believe or doubting information that comes to you, it is because there is doubt, truth does not allow space for doubt, and as you know, it does not really matter what another populous looks like, what there habits are, what their mission is, what matters is your perception of it. Your reaction to it and how it helps you to grow on your own journey and mission. [22:05 22:05]

Q: Thank you so much, that was great.
V: Thank you.

Host: Ok Penny you are next up, I am going to ask you to unmute, and ask your question please.

Q: Hello Vagrein, we really appreciate you. I have a question for you.
V: Yes.

Q02: What can you tell us about our soul, or spirit that may be useful for us to know ?

V: [23:01 23:01] You are your soul, your spirit, the most useful thing to know is that you always are, everything that seems not to be, is not, it is yes part of what you have created to be your vessel, to be your vehicle, to be your path and journey, but beyond and beside, all of that there is that inner guidance that inner being and guidance is not the right term because guidance would imply there is someone to be guided, whereas it is more as if you have put on a costume or picked up a script and you are an actor. There is a role you are playing or that your character is playing but your soul and your spirit is not apart from you. So when we speak of higher selves or inner being, that is who we actually see as yourselves, that is with whom we interact, this conversation the verbal part of it, is in many ways simply a placebo because the true interaction is the energetics that you are receiving that you are transmitting at this moment in time. This is a training for you to be able to feel that you already are your soul and your spirit, and part of our message is also to allow you to remember to cherish all of the other elements that make you up. Or that make up the journey that you have created for yourself, your body, your mind, your emotions, your relations, your experience, your surroundings. If you identify more with your soul which is again an inaccurate term, because it is not your soul. You are the soul. So it is your personality, your body. Not the other way around. But if you identify more with who you actually are and less with who you are not, you life will flow so much smoother, you can stay to yourself, my emotions are acting in such and such a way today, but I am still, but I am, well then your emotions can do what they like the same way the weather can, you get an umbrella, you put on your sunglasses, you go to the beach. Your emotions are down, well you can put on some comfy pajamas, they are up, wonderful - You go to some social event. But you do not identify with any of it. Same with your personality or your abilities. You do well on an exam, well the personality or abilities did well on an exam. And you may watch that. You have some success it is not yours, it is that of the personality, you do not identify with that, you have some failure it is not yours, you do not need to suffer, because there has been a failure. The body it fails, or it it is in optimal health again it has nothing to do with you, these are just passing circumstances and events, so you are your soul, you are your spirit, and as this concept becomes more clear or concrete with you, within you, as you then you are able to experiment more with understanding who you really are and that things such as concepts of self love, etc they do not actually apply because you are unable to not love yourself, you are unable to not love others, you as you, you as your spirit are incapable of hatred. You are incapable of misunderstanding of lack of clarity, because you are all these things, you are perfected, it is everything you are identifying with that is not. We hope that that is helpful. [28:14 28:14]

Q: Thank you so much.
V: Thank you.


Host: Ok Natasha your turn is next, could you unmute yourself please.

Q03: So thanks for choosing my questions. My question is about injustice and justice and when a injustice has happened to us, on this earthy plane, I don't know, in the world. You know is it the high road to not do anything or is it the high road to actually do something in the face of an injustice ?

V: [29:10 29:10] There are two aspects to this question, we will answer them in order.
There is no injustice or justice because there is no judge, the All That Is judges not all that is because it is incapable of judging anything that is as everything that is has already been approved, otherwise it would not be. So, while there are circumstances and situations that seem injust, it is only because you do not, from your human perspective have all of the information and there will be pain perhaps there can be suffering and pain and there can be what seems to be an imbalance, but this is on one level of perception, where as behind, what has happened or what seems to have happened, there is always a benevolent workings that has been put in place by the universe, perhaps using tools such as other people in what seems to be negative ways, but these tools have been put in place by the universe for specific reasons. And the universe is incapable of judging what is just and what isn't because all that presents is just. We know what this and descriptions like this are difficult for you because you do see horrors and you do experience horrors both in your world and in your personal lives. And we honor and respect and encourage the emotional process that is needed to feel through and heal from what has occurred, however it is often the desire for this emotional process to happen that is the original request for the catalyst that allows it to become in the foreground of your experience. For example: And this is easier for your to accept than when someone one harms someone else but we will give you the example of health. When someone finds themself with some disease, they often talk about fairness, or especially when it's regarding to a child it is not fair, it is not fair that this has happened. But the process or the chain of events that comes from that manifestation or experience often leads to for example, some spiritual awakening or in the case of parents who have a child who is suffering, it leads to them learning compassion or priorities or any myriad of positive aspects that comes from what seems to be a negative and very unfair situation. And once the whole situation is survived many times people look back and they realize the beauty of their lives was directly in relation to something that they would not have chosen for themselves. And the reason that they do not choose for themselves is because of believing they know that it would be a negative outcome when in fact there was ultimately a positive outcome in their personal growth or in their spirits path. And this is why the universe is working with you and will at times choose what seems to you from your human perspective, the thing that is not pleasant, the thing that is not wanted. It will present you with this to give you the opportunity to grow. So, it is not exactly that you have manifested something, because you somehow have this need to suffer, it is because there is a desire that is coming from a non human part of you to grow in a certain way that only that experience would allow you to arrive at.

The second part of your question was is doing nothing taking the high road and we would like to inform that there is no high road, there is no way to be more correct than anyone else, so if there is no high road then we would ask, that when you are faced with what you perceive of as injustice which you may, perceive of as injustice then your decision on how to act or what to do need not be made based upon trying to be good. The best way to discern how to manage or interact or respond when a seeming injustice has been done, will be by listening very closely to your own inner being to understand what is being requested of you. So a classic example would be you see, a group of men beating someone in an alleyway, you may think this is not correct, there is something that is not happening that is good, and in that moment you may think that the universe is benevolent and that man is being beaten because of whatever reason, that he needs to grow. Yes this may be true. But you are also there. To witness the man being beaten in the alleyway, so you are automatically a part of that experience, and you are automatically responsible, you have the ability to respond and the definition of the word responsible and it is then your choice based upon your inner guidance to intervene or not, but if you are listening to anything other than your inner guidance, and for example you are listening to your mind or some concept that you have heard about the high road or the low road, or what is correct to do or incorrect to do, then you will not be able with all of that stuff in your mind to hear what your inner guidance is telling you in that moment and you will not be able to react, as yourself

And this goes back to the question of the previous questioner [Session 03.28 Q02] - You yourself are spirit, you are your inner being, if you mind if busy playing on loop different things, then your inner being is very hard to hear, and act in your human body as. This is not about ascension, it is about calling in, it is about coming back to your human form or calling your spirit through your human form, you are not on this planet to leave it. You are on this planet or in this experience or in this life, to be spirit incarnate, so if you go back to your original question there are the following elements:

You may choose to begin to see all that is as All That Is sees is, which is that there is no injustice.

and coupled with that.

You may choose to begin to listen to your inner being in each moment, and know that you have the ability to respond in whatever way feels good to you, if it does not feel good, do not do it. If it feels good, then it is what you are being called and asked and requested to do.

Was there another part to this question ?

Q: No that fully and completely answered my question.
V: Thank you. [37:59 37:59]

Host: Ok Teagan you are next, I hope I said you name properly, you can ask your question.

Q04: Yes it's Teagan, I wonder if you could touch more on desire and that, what you said the call to service. I can't be more specific because I think that any time I phrase the question I already know the answer. But I would love if you have any more information on that.

V: [38:34 38:34] Yes we will say only what we have said in the past, in that desire is not created by you. Desire is an impulse that comes through you, through your spirit. Through you being and arrives at your physical mind, or at times your physical body. And is based upon we will call them codes, or coding, though we do not want to get too specific into that type of language, so we will try to explain. It is as if you get a stream of code that tells you how to move more towards who you are. This comes through as desire. So you begin to want something, now you have not chosen what you want. If you look and examine your life very carefully you will see that you have never chosen to want anything. You have tried many times not to want the things that you do want but you have never chosen specifically to want what you want, your preferences although they may be based upon experiences you have had in the past, are pretty much a mystery to you, you do not know why you prefer chocolate ice cream over vanilla, you do not know why you prefer men over women, you do not know the specifics as to why you prefer anything it just is. You look at it and you say, I just do. So why do you ? Well you say ' I just do' Yes, but Why ?

The Why is because your desires are the coding they are the coding that will lead you to where you desire to be. You cannot get all of the information all at once because you computer or your being or your mind would not process it the same way your computer cannot process all of the information at the same time. It it getting close to being able to do so, but sooner or later it will crash if it had all of the information of your whole life at once. And there are people who are able to see all of their desires at once. And these people do not function very well. So a little more faith that you know what you are doing. A little more faith of each of you that you know exactly what you are doing, you just don't know all of what you are doing. All at once. But you do know that you prefer not to go to that party. Or you do know that you would like to sit next to that person on the bus. You see these desires or, and what you are talking about in this moment is a more specific example. but it applies to more specific examples as well, but the smaller examples lead to the larger examples, lead to the larger examples, so we say follow your desires, it does not mean to act out of integrity upon them. That does not mean to take action that is against your moral code. But it does mean to be aware. And to be honest. I desire this thing. Even if that thing is not acceptable to the majority of your collective or circumstantially in a moment or another. Honor that you have the desire. It does not mean you need to act upon it all at once. But it awareness of it will help you tremendously. And. yes they will lead you to your purpose but again the purpose is not something that you will ever see all at once. You will will never have a purpose that is fixed in stone that does not shift and move as you shift and move and your desires will always be changing. Because they are the transmission they are the information that is coming to you from you. So allow it . And enjoy it, there are so many of you who are trying to suppress, repress and change your desires, you would every so much like to be someone other than who you are. But your desires are telling you who you are at all times. What you want, is who you are. And there is nothing negative about what you want. You are allowed to want exactly what you want. The only conflict comes in is when you tell yourself you are not. Because you have been told so often by those who are meant to be caring for you that what you want is inappropriate because it is not what they wanted. Simply because of that they wanted something else, because they were them. You can allow yourself to want it. [ 44:16 44:16]

Host: Teagan has that answered your question ?
Q: Yeah that was great. Thank you.
V: Thank you.

Host: James you can proceed.

Q: Great, Thank you Gail. Thank you Vagrein. It's good to hear from you again. You have answered, you always answer. But I will ask it anyway.

Q05: As I find myself living more in the now. I have great difficulty connecting to anything that has happened in the past whether it be 5 minutes or 5 years or 20 years.

V: Good.

Q: It's like the dream I have in the morning when I wake up, but it's like trying to grab onto smoke, which is a challenge in life when you are working with people. And I guess my question is more around what you mentioned before about soul or in observance that we sit in the now and thats where we live, so this is where we are so everything else doesn't become relevant, but I, you know. We get more used to that, do we, do we as we move into that state that becomes more acceptable to us to assume the observance of the now and just be in the now.

V: [45:49 45:49] Yes.

Q:Is that the real challenge ?

V: Well it already is acceptable to you, because the you that you are does not have a problem with this and you know that. So there is obviously a part of you that you still identify with that is deciding that it is challenging, but why ? Why is it challenging if it is not really your problem at all. In other words, if you are interacting with someone and they are expecting you to remember what happened the last time you interacted with them and you do not. Why is this a problem ?

For their perception or their expectation is as valid as your experience of not being able to remember or not caring to remember or approaching them with new eyes and new love, because much of your memory is stored simply because your human vessel has a mechanism for self protection. So memory is a mechanism to prevent harm or prevent damage after past experiences, so something as simple as the last time you went to the bank, the teller was rude to you. Which means the next time you go to the bank you will anticipate this. so as not to feel the sensation of having had your feelings hurt. As you are anticipating it you are also calling it into your experience and then you are formulating, much like your synaptic nerves a pattern of every time you go to the bank, the teller being rude to you.

We apologize that this example is perhaps is not applicable as you no longer go to banks.
However, back to the analogy.

If however you forget that the teller is rude to you or you have forgotten because you no longer have the need to protect yourself because you no longer identify with yourself in that way, because you no longer identify with the past in that way. Then the first time that you go to the bank, after you have forgotten that this teller is rude to you. You will go to the bank as the love that you are. And when they are rude to you. You may not even notice and you may get very angry that you have not noticed that they are rude to you because they are not able to affect you in the same way that they normally can. And they will go home at the end of that day and not understand why that man that they were so rude to didn't stop smiling and being kind with them and then maybe the next time you go to the bank they will have a new anticipation because of their new memory of you, that this is the strange man that smiles when I am rude to them and this will slightly soften the being until they forget they have a habit of being rude to people. You see memory does not serve you at all, because you are in each moment fresh. So no matter what the interaction was in the past with a person if you are coming into the moment in this now, and you are coming to it fresh, you also have the opportunity to say to the person, it is so wonderful to meet you. Not again, because you are meeting them new and afresh. and perhaps they say, don't you remember we met before, you can always say Yes, yes of course because in many ways you have but you are there fresh. So the fact that is seems to be a problem, is yes eventually you will eventually become accustomed to no longer caring that there are these what seems to be inconveniences, or misalignments between yourself and another self, but the truth is you are setting up a new future with that person, you are setting up a clean slate, every time and that is a far greater gift that you can give them then to reinforce any form of memory that they have of you in the past. Yes, there are memories that you are nostalgic about letting go of however you must recall that your memories are distortions anyway. There was no reality in the first place, it was all your perception of it. And when it is recorded as memory, you then have the memory that is related to every memory that you have had since you remembered that thing so for example you remember an ex-partner when you are buttering toast. From then on every time you are buttering toast you remember that you remembered the ex-partner the last time you are buttering toast, it is a series of memories. None of them are true, and none of them actually happened, so you are safe to let go. And you are safe to be in the now and we know that you have found that you are more and more in the now it is more pleasurable. The sensation you are feeling of discomfort or nostalgia is more a case of you being very aware and your what is called ego but we do not use that term. Your sense of separation realizing that as you move into the now, you sense of separation will have to be let go of. You are the now. [51:41 51:41]

Q: Great, Thank you as always. Thank you.
V: Thank you.

Host: Merete you are next, you can unmute yourself and ask your question please.

Q06: Thank you, I have been wondering what happens with spirit when we are asleep, could you say something about what's happening to us and both when we dream and that ?

V: [ 52:25 52:25] Nothing is happening to you when you sleep or to spirit. Spirit is timeless and universal so it does not sleep, this is how you are even to be aware of dreams. It is a connection experience that continues to experience itself the part of you that is your mind, or your body that are sleeping are simply put down for a moment, this is why sleep feels good, it's is also why sleep is necessary. Because if you were not sleeping on a regular basis you would die, because spirit would no longer be able to tolerate you. It would let you go, It is only in repose that your soul or your spirit has a chance to really feel what it is without your mind and your emotions and your body getting in the way. So sleep is that respose, it is that pause and every time you wake in the morning or when you wake, you can be sure and you can be know that you are loved. Because your being, your soul, who you are, you, have decided each time it happens to continue with this story. it does not have to. And in fact at some point it won't, but you, you who you are, as your soul, as your spirit as all that you are, decides every morning to be the being the human that you are out of every possible configuration. How glorious ! How glorious is that, how much can you celebrate yourself if that is the case. How wonderful is each morning ? To know that this story is worthwhile, that it is fascinating, that is is the best possible story.
The dreams you recall, or the cramps that you get in your body, or the stiff neck when you wake up, the experiences of the storyline that occur when you were asleep are not then what is calling in or out spirit. It is the other way around. Spirit goes and has its rest and adventure or not goes, or is as it always is in the All That Is, and then comes back and lends itself to you for your consciousness.

It is a good example or description of maybe even of the channeling state. For all intents and purposes that which is known as Jessica is sleeping. But the body clearly is not, the mind is not and her soul is not somewhere else. It is everywhere else the same way yours is. You are channeling your self, or yourself is being channeled by your body and your mind it is in your sleep state that that job or duty is put on pause and you remain where you are it is just that you are not trying to materialize in that moment, and it is the same as you will be after you have let the body go

We hope that this in some ways quenches the curiosity [ 56:48 56:48] .

Q: Yes, Thank you for that beautiful story.

V: We will receive one more question at this time.

Host: At this time we don't have a question posted, if someone has one quickly that you would like to ask a question please indicate. Ok we don't seem to have another question. Vagrein I will ask.

Q07: It's been a while since we gathered is there any other message that you would like to share with us today ?

V: [57:37 57:37] We have enjoyed the thread that has run through these questions, there has been a common theme, specifically relating to the attachment or detachment of the elements of your being, we remind you that it is all unified. And that communication whether it be with yourself or other-selves whether it be in the realm of your what you call reality, or spanning diverse existences and realities as in the case or the channeled messages with the arcturians is always only as clear as the messenger. The solution to clear communication is on one hand yes, making sure that the messenger is clear and in this case the messenger would be your mind. It would also be your body, but it is also remembering what the true source is of any message, it is remembering you are the true source and that anything that comes through you will always be affected and influenced by who you believe yourself to be. So you can spend the rest of your life trying to clear up, the messenger, if you believe yourself to be the messenger, but a hack and a shortcut would be to remember simply that you are the source of the message, and you are the source of the light and the love and you can call that through and you can be who you are. You can. Just reach higher. And remember.

You are love, you are light, you are free.
and even in your most sensory human moments and experiences you are doing a wonderful job. You are exactly where you need to be.

We wish you the light and the love of a thousand suns. Anainai