V: [07:53 07:53 ]Good day to you.

Q: Good day

V: It is our pleasure and honor to be meeting with you in this fashion.

Q01: And it's it's a pleasure and honor to me and I thank you for for allowing us to to hear you and to meet and for exchanging the knowledge and I'm I'm so thankful that the knowledge is available to me and for reading the book. I've been. It's like everything was very familiar in a way and at the same time I like knowing it and still not knowing that I knew it all but at the same time or this what's what's will me is this of knowing it and being challenged in how to put it into practice and I would like to if you could, if you could talk about that.

Maybe I should tell you a little bit more. I've been having this notion of I had a lot of pieces of puzzle and I had to put this big puzzle together and I was kind of searching and sometimes waiting for this missing link to to appear so I could connect the puzzle in the right way and the puzzle being me and I'm in the process of realizing that there is no fixed puzzle. That all the pieces of puzzle are there in different ways and they are all there. There's nothing missing but how to really believe in that and overcome the old patterns of separation and me not being good enough?

It's like being stuck and and in a way I know what's good for me and brings me joy but I'm not doing it. Well I am sometimes but not as much as I would like to do and I can't really figure out what's holding me back or I have these notions of it but I'm it doesn't really make the change in my life that i would like to have.

V: Yes. First we will remind you that it is not us who allows the communication but it is you so our gratitude and thanks goes to you for allowing this communication to come through. As you said the information both that we will transmit today and that you have read in the book are information that are native to you. They are things that you have known in yourself that you are knowing as truth within yourself and this is why they have arrived in your experience. They do not arrive in everyone's experience. They have arrived in yours because they are a truth that is coming to you because you are ready to admit this truth to yourself. Your difficulty, or perceived difficulty, with, in the past, fitting together the puzzle pieces is in fact because you are not a puzzle to decipher or fit together and as you are coming to understand now you are instead a multifaceted, perhaps a better analogy, sculpture or 'work of art' that you chip away at until you reveal its actual form within it. Therefore it is not so much a question of putting the pieces together but taking apart the parts that do not actually naturally belong to you.

With regards to living the experience of you as yourself and this sensation of being stuck or blocked it is a choice that you are continuing to make. It is not a choice that you need to judge yourself on or by. It is simply a choice because you have remaining aspects of fear or discomfort at the possibility of being that final sculpture and we will remind you that within a lifetime you will be constantly in the process of creating the sculpture that you want to be and will at no point arrive at the final form that is your true magnificence because you have not come here to stare at a final form. You have come here to be the craftsman and the artisan and the sculptor itself. This is the joy of your life - to choose which pieces to remove and which pieces to maintain in order to come to the form that you have desired within your lifetime. This is an infinite process. This is the process of being incarnate and as well the process of being non-incarnate in your creation. Beyond creation you will no longer have this process and will be able to stare at the All That Is in its infinite glory and beauty but you will not have the thrill, excitement and pleasure of participating in creation in the same way that you do at this time. So we may look now at what it is that you would prefer to the sensation of being stuck that you are currently experiencing.

Do you have an idea of what you would prefer ?

Q: Yeah I would prefer to have a sensation of flow of life streaming like bubbles, joy and
in yeah in in opposition to so this being stuck.

V: [15:25 15:25] There is an element of you resisting what is appearing in your experience and this is the only reason in fact why anyone could not experience flow because of a resistance to What Is or a preference to something that is not. In your case the most obvious at this point in time would be that you have a resistance to your perceived sensation of being stuck. If you were to allow yourself to live within the sensation of feeling stuck you would find that the acceptance of the sensation of feeling stuck is indeed flow.

It is your own judgment on the sensation of not movement or being blocked or whatever it is you are defining as this stuckedness that is your resistance towards the flow but all of it is perception there is actually no such thing as being stuck.

There is perhaps moments of less movement or action or activity there are perhaps moments of quiet or uncertainty or doubt but none of them are the actual possibility of stuckedness.

V:[17:04 17:04] Is there a perception of self, in flow, that is doing or being or exhibiting in a different way than what you are at this time.

Q: I'm not sure I got that.

V: We are wondering if you have in your mind an idea of how you should be in order to not be stuck.

Q02: yeah, it's it's like, like I have been and also now I feel it's like in the past I've been like being on the middle road like gray not having very much highs and lows emotionally but being in a gray zone and and now I'm it's as if it's coming.

It's being more and more obvious to me and it's coming it's dragging me or I'm. I'm this not feeling instead of choosing to do things that are kind of empty and not, not opening my emotions neither the going with the ones that are more challenging or the yeah that can be challenging in in different ways, both the the one with like joy and and sadness can be challenging in each way and I'm kind of not I'm just in this grave this stuckness and i would I have this notion of wanting, to wanting to be with all the emotions because I, I see the emotions as like a compass for me to all kinds of emotion but still I, I'm restrict myself in in feeling all the emotions does that make sense.

V: Yes this will be a choice you have free will. You have the ability to swim upstream, go to the analogy of flow and rivers we will describe to you that a river has both periods of
gradation of flow towards the ocean where there are mountains and the river is flowing strongly over rocks, past obstacles, underneath the ground and can come to perhaps even a very turbulent waterfall at the bottom of this waterfall there may be a small lagoon or pause space where the river seems to be slower. The water is deeper there has been more damage to the rock and therefore there is more opportunity for the water to stay in this reservoir for some time before it continues on this journey downstream. There may be some twigs along the way that slow the process and there may be eddies where the water gets wrapped around in itself into small whirlpools for some period.
All of this is the natural flow of the river eventually whether by gravity or evaporation the water does arrive to its source and its destination which are one of the same because it is always at its source and destination for it is always water.

The desire that you have to be able to break free from this gray area can be akin to one of these lagoons or reservoirs where the water is not moving as quickly as it could in other points of its river and it is also in these reservoirs quite easy to get yourself behind one of these twigs or branches and into a whirlpool of eddies. But with the faith that you are at all times water at some point you will or can if you choose, stop your swimming upstream and let go and you will naturally be taken to exactly where you need to be.

In terms of your emotional landscape and waterfalls etc. because this would be how it would be represented within your analogy and the emotions one must understand that it is okay to go off the edge and absolutely natural to experience your own flow in your own way. There is also however no reason to do so if you choose not to do so.
So the sensation of being stucked it at this point and the desire to not be stuck is actually your unstucking the fact that you have this desire to move into the faster parts of the river, is the energy that will take you there because it is your intention.

What is holding you back is the belief that you need to do something apart from have that desire for this to happen for you and you have noticed in recent times that there is more of a contrast and there is more sensation this is what you are asking for because you do want to experience yourself more on these levels. As these sensations and contrast arrive in your experience you will at each point be asked do you want to let go and go with this flow which is perhaps foreign to you or new to you or would you prefer to remain as you are both are absolutely acceptable and there's time for all of it.
The desire to get to the ocean for example in this analogy does require that you go down the river, so your burning desire to become one with all is going to require you allowing yourself to naturally become what you would call unstuck but it's the holding on to the idea that you are stuck in the first place that is keeping you where you are.

So we will at this point make a statement that will be your permission slip to simply let go and this statement is 'You are safe to let go.'

There's not anything else that you would have to do.

The question earlier about beginning to understand your worthiness or not feeling able to let go until you have this sense of safety and worthiness. Is valid for you in this moment in that you do believe that there is danger in being your full beauty but it is where you are most supported because as you know if you resist the river it will bring you upon rocks. Imagine a leaf, how it flows in the most appropriate ways compared to perhaps a human who has been thrown in the river and tries to swim.

If it were to curl up in a ball it would be taken down in the natural direction that the water is going the water does not take itself towards rocks it goes around them or through them or molds them to its form. You have nothing to fear by letting go and being yourself and the fears that do arise are conditioned fears that you have adopted as a baby you did not have them and there's a wisdom in your youngest for they are the closest to source.

So be like a baby and allow yourself to be curious and marvel in your own wonder. [28:17 28:17]


Q03: Yeah that I can. I feel like this curiosity and flow like and it opens it opens up
This attitude of the child and picture of the stream and it reminds me in a way that something else that I've been thinking of like my my relation to spirituality, religion and I like when i was a child my parents or especially my mother came from a very strict christian home and I've had this concept of god as someone who's watching you and and judging and at the same time I didn't believe that and I believed in in like this loving loving every, loving all as a core of of my way of thinking of religion and and in my my life I've been connecting to different aspects like I've been like doing a practice of yoga and brief work where we also chant in sanskrit I've been following and also chanting in aramaic the old way from the another way of translating the bible in and seeing that the perception of god was what I what I perceived as a child actually the translation in Aramaic was close to that and I've been like Sufi dancing and chanting in Arabic and also being like Buddhism and all these again these pieces of of puzzle like always having the notion of it's it makes sense this and it's all the same I mean god is in all of us and uh is us in a way but still could I'm curious of of you could you say something of of this notion of god.

V: [32:59 32:59 Yes the gods that you have been offered as an example of your creator are gods of the mind of man. They are gods that are fallible in that they can be confronted and challenged by man and it is the egotism of man to believe that it can usurp its creator. There is no way for creation or what could be called the godhead or source to create an error. It is impossible for all of that which is in creation to be out of place even by one hair.

All-That-Is is created in its perfection including the ability for man to believe that it has the ability to anger creation. However even the ability to anger creation has been created by the creator. If this perfection was understood by all of mankind then there would be a drastic shedding of some beliefs that do not serve you any longer in that while you are responsible in part for your individual lives and yes have free will that free will is granted to you by the most benevolent and loving source that could ever be because there is no need for acceptance or forgiveness when there is no ability to judge. How could creation judge what it is and down to what you said about god being in every man this is true because god is in all of creation.

The gods that are represented to you in many of your texts as we said are gods of man they are of the creation of the mind of man and there are indeed beings or energies that are in your experience that are judging you that are vengeful that are calculating your sins and your virtues but these are not your creator.

These are as much a part of creation as any other aspect of it including yourselves and therefore are equal in their ability to control or have power with or over you many of these beings are your brothers and sisters in that you are in a imbalanced situation you are at all times or many times judging one another and one another's choices without seeing the perfection even in your most what you would consider horrendous acts between man and man there is the spark of the creator and the will of the creator your co-creation for purposes that perhaps are easier to judge than to understand but the sensation that you've had while visiting with these different fonts or sources of wisdom on this topic and the conclusion.

The golden thread that you have drawn between them that creation is more than judgment upon you and whether or not you are good or bad. You are neither there is no such thing is correct. In that they are you have drawn a thread based upon what you know, what you knew, and what you believe from the beginning of your time, love to be, because that is what it is. It is love. It is light.

Creation is incapable of exclusion and that oneness, the closer you come to understanding that oneness the more you will feel that love and the more you do which is why you are attracted to these practices and teachings and in the same way we spoke about it being safe to allow the flow of your life to unfold for you it is also safe to because you have this desire lean into your knowing of this god. The god that is creation that is All-That-Is because this god is holding you and always has been and requires nothing and each time you think of a vengeful or judging or exclusive god which is a characteristic that often goes with these myths, then that negative or slightly off feeling that you get is indication that of course it is out of alignment with the more cohesive truth of what creation and your life is all about. The gods created by the minds of man are often created to alleviate fears to control and to maintain certain aspects
of your society. Will remind you however that your society or the constructions of your civilizations at this time are in a period of great transformation and we will use the word destruction because they are no longer serving you and in the same way you are now in your own personal life going through your belief systems and making choices as to what serves and what does not.

Your entire civilization or your entire collective is going through this process and as you know it is a challenging and painful process on a personal level. So you have the ability to have compassion for this challenging and painful process on the collective level as well. You will however and are safe to get through this process in whatever way feels wholistic and pleasing to you. [41:33 41:33]

There is no external or higher god or source that is apart from you. For that creator or creation envelopes you as it envelops all the rest of the All-That-Is and cannot see you as separate. When you choose to not see it as separate or any of your brothers or the floor under your feet or the air that you breathe or things such as rocks and viruses
you will see through the eyes of what you would love to call god. [42:41 42:41]

Q: Thank you and now I'm, it's as if, now that this is kind of very very big picture and it's it's very touching and reassuring and on the one hand there's kind of well there no more no more no more questions and on the other hand there's this part of me kind of going into details about. oh what's. How can I again this how can i apply this to my my work and my clients and how can I apply this to my relation, my difficult relation to my sister and her family and going into details like so I'm kind of split into well this is yeah very profound and I'm really grateful and on the other hand there's this part of me and and and I don't know need to know more is part of me and another part is saying oh what to do about this and that into details. yeah.

V: Yes and this is the beautiful and natural aspect of being human and incarnate at this time. Which is absolutely necessary for the journey that you have chosen to be on. The fastest and concise advice that we would give about how to apply this knowing which you do hold to your day-to-day life is to understand that first it is not your life it is indeed more the responsibility of creation flowing through you and to know that you already are a part of this creation.

With your conflict with your sister with your issues or learning abilities with your clients for example the blocks or the misfires which is not entirely the correct term but the moments in which you see yourself and choose to judge yourself for not having taken the optimal direction are the absolute perfect elements of creation in that moment and your own realization afterwards or even your own judgment of yourself afterwards is to part of the perfection of creation. When you are assigning responsibility to yourself for your life and for your reactions and for your experience you are in a way arguing with creation or attempting to in saying that for example you know better than that example that circumstance that has occurred. If you are having conflict with your sister to take responsibility on to yourself for why that conflict is there in the first place and attempt to fix it with your mind and logic as opposed to allowing it to be fixed by creation, if that is what creation would want is an arguing with the circumstance.

So the way to apply much of this to your life is to cease arguing with circumstance. Allow more of what is to be including your own emotions about What Is which is also a part of creation. Including your own resistance to this concept in the first place which is also a part of creation and rest in the knowing that you in your divine perfection are playing the divine role that you are meant to be playing and as you allow and allow and allow what is to play through you in its way in your way then circumstance will have an easier or
you will at least experience it as being easier flow through you for in the same way that you are meant to flow along the river of life life is meant to flow through you. No matter what it is you are doing what it is you are experiencing what it is you are believing about yourself each and every moment and there is only one moment as moments flow through your experience is 'exactly' what it is wanting to be by creation to this end there's never anything that is out of place there is never anything that is wrong or incorrect. The only thing that could be or seem to be is your own perception of it. There's perfection in your stuckedness or in your relationships that seem difficult because there is the impossibility of there being anything but perfection.

Creation does not make errors. We know that from a human perspective this is perhaps one of the more difficult concepts to accept and grasp and apply and remember in their day to day life. We are confident however that it is unnecessary to do so but of course that comes from our viewpoint. From your own we do understand that it is or seems to be complicated and so your endeavor may be to bit by bit dismantle the resistance you have to this idea that 'everything is perfect' and have compassion for yourself as you [elincate ? 52:22 52:22] or list all of the imperfections that you do see in your experience and every time you do see what you consider an imperfection hold in the back of your mind and you already have this knowing in your heart that maybe, maybe in some way this thing that I am holding as imperfect, is perfect and maybe maybe in some way even though i see it as imperfect. I can allow myself to know that creation has some other point of view even if I cannot see it and we come to your religious scriptures who have at times in their interpretation hit the nail on the head and they have at times said that when one cannot find the answer or one one is facing grief, or tragedy they have said it is god's will and this has brought relief to many of you to know to that when you cannot reason with your experience when you cannot reason with your circumstance. If you can find that sliver of faith within yourself that creation knows what it's doing. Then you may be able to find that relief within yourself. [ 54:24 54:24]


Q: Yeah thank you so much.

V: [55:07 55:07] Thank you and we will remind you that you are always held you are
a beautiful fragment of this infinite dance, your Sufi dancing or the spinning that you have participated in can be referred to for yourself, in that sensation that you feel when you are in that movement. Because that is the spinning of your universe .So whenever you are in a state of confusion you may lean on that sensation or that memory. To have a deeper understanding. Because you do know love. You do allow yourself that bubbling up of joy that you described earlier and you can and will allow more of it and with that we wish that you know you are held and send you the love and the light of the thousand suns. Anainai. [56:43 56:43]

[ rest of text was chatting after the session]