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10-12-2020 Private
Good Now to you.
Q: Good Now, it's lovely to meet with you. But I feel very unusual in this moment. ha ha
V: It is our pleasure to meet with you.
Q: [ Begins to speak Vagrein does too, Go ahead [ 03:06 03:06]
V: [ Speaking overlap ] Each moment is unusual. as each new moment [03:08 03:08]
Is unique, and a once in creation experience, and so in this way, it is all the usual moments that get lost or unacknowledged, and and those that feel potentially feel more unusual,your attention is grabbed, because you are willing or ready, to accept and step into the newer version of you learnings, or newer phases of experience for you.
Q; uhmm.
V: In this way, perhaps a reframe of unusual can be met with curiosity. In the same way that a child has new experiences, and they are unusual, they become commonplace, with repetition perhaps what is frightening to a child when it becomes familiar no longer holds the discomfort or trigger and the new experience with time becomes something of a moment of joy for the same child. You are as you all are, a child. You will have a lifetime of new and unusual experiences, because you are gifting yourself the wonder of being incarnate as yourself as your personality as your body, and it it the first time you have done that, have, having faith in the process, can bring comfort. Or soothing, but we would like to hear from you. [06:33 06:33]
Q: ok. Thank you for those words, I should say the transmission not the words.
Sigh.
Q: You may be aware, I had a communication with Jessie yesterday and it was actually just it was almost, I will just say it was like the straw that broke the camels back, the discussion, was just a slight misunderstanding on something simple. And I say misunderstanding because I don't have another word, where I intended to say one thing and she read it or perceived it as different. And it was just about use of a google drive, just to give it a name. But it triggered something deeper that had been triggered, right now it feels like for weeks.
We've talked about the Gene Keys before so I think I can say that I am doing the Venus Sequence and I know, well I think it's deep work. I will explain why I say I think it's deep work later.
Sigh. But I know I am really experiencing I will say difficulty in communication, but I am observing a lot of things, coming into my space communication wise as well, So I don't have a question but I feel almost afraid to communicate for making mistakes and at the same time, I have a lot of different and intense communications coming my way. And I recognize there is learning and I can see the completeness of it but I don't think I've been this deeply triggered in the midst.
And it feels like it has thrown me into doubt or if I am just feeling doubt and fear and possible rejection or abandonment by the triggers. I know that may be very unclear what I just said. And I feel anxiety in saying that, but I know that this is a safe place to explore it.
I think I tried for a week or so to figure out how to question you on it, but that's as much as I have. Sigh, There is a lot of frustration and a lot of concern about maybe hurting others, or others misunderstanding but at the same time I may have people reaching out to me that I know they just want something, that it doesn't feel like an authentic interaction, so those ones I am pausing and not responding to and that's quite a bit, but I am trying to paint a picture and I think I will leave it there.
Does that give any picture?
V: [10:26 10:26] Yes, you have described your current state of being or understanding, as you see it in this moment, we have not felt a invitation in any of the directions that you have outlined to speak upon and so we will ask you to choose one of the feelings or emotions that you are facing, at this time, for us to speak on.
Q01: Ok. I think, I hope fear is not too global. But it's like I will have a knowingness of something I won't say I completely know it but I have a pull to say or do something but I am afraid of what may occur if I do. Ah, It feels like that comes from my childhood self when I feel that fear so is that something that you could share on.
V: [12:08 12:08] We will confirm that if there is a fear, such as you are describing, that it is related to some fear that your felt in a position in which you could not address it at that time. And it is being proposed to you at this time, because you are now in a position where you are able and willing to address it in a way, that perhaps as a child you were not able or free to the suggestion or perhaps exploration that we could partake upon at this time would be to try to understand in this now where you are in an adult body and you have had your past experiences which are calling to you to perhaps be resolved in this opportune moment to search within your mind your 'logical mind' as to what you believe the negative consequence could be to you as you said potentially communicating in a way that is not understood, or misunderstood or as you said hurting inadvertently another self, what is the consequence that you can outline circumstantially in your imagination that is preventing you from expressing yourself in the way that you would like to express yourself.
You mentioned abandonment and rejection so perhaps that is a hint for you.
Q:Well yesterday, with Jessie, I know at one point I was afraid we would not be friends and we would not work together. And I know that that was just the fear in the moment, and past sort of feelings, I know it wasn't anything tangible said, and I also have that, it feels like a cutting off of some sort of opportunity like if I took first step wrong, if it was a first step, in that case. That I would not get any other steps, because it was inadequate or failed. Failed is probably.[ possibly audio gap for a few words.14:33 14:33] Does that make sense ?
V: [14:36 14:36] Yes, and if you are using the word failure, which is often used in your cultures to imply there is a test that one can pass or fail, it points to you believing that you are under examination or being tested. Is this perhaps how you feel ?
Q02: Yeah, and I think - I tried to talk to Jessie about it, about some communications I had with other-selves and she didn't really get what I said, we either didn't have enough time to go in detail or I just didn't translate it, I am not sure.
But like a lot of people who are so called sensitives with ADHD or different things that they like communication in certain ways, another thing would be which we can talk about later in Human Design. like in manifestors and I am a projector. But basically I am afraid that I will structure something wrong or I will trigger somebody, so I have had some communications that I thought were friendly and easeful with someone who has these sensitivities and it, it became like an explosive discussion suddenly and I have noticed that there is many of these people who have come into my field and I am like Ok, Well why so many, if this a mirror ? What am I to learn. So it feels a bit frustrating because I wonder have I backed myself into a corner and these are the only people communicating or is it just an opportunity to learn. And I know that I sound so confused and everything mixed up together here, but I just can't seem to separate it, not just in this discussion, I can't seem to separate it for weeks.
V: [16:37 16:37] First we would say to have patience with yourself and with these circumstance for if this is related to something that you have had within you, from childhood it is opportune that the resolution does not happen overnight, it is opportune that you have the time to see the resolution in progress so that you are the other end of your learning, can say yes this is a lesson learnt and I do not need to learn it again. There are people who have lessons placed throughout their lives because at a certain point with repetition they will indeed learn it, but perhaps their lives would be peppered with similar scenarios, occurring over and over on a subtle level, because that is all that they could handle.
You in this moment, do have an opportunity, perhaps the lesson is not as subtle and direct but it is in your face so that you can realize that this is a moment for you to really reel in your faculties, apply the teachings that you have been studying for ever so long, and come to a conclusion that is satisfactory to you. The fact that it involves other-selves does not imply that there is anything inherently wrong with you and other-selves or your interaction with them, it is simply the fact that you have chosen other-selves as a tool within your own learning process to facilitate your learning experience at at this time.
Q: Ok.
V: This may be the reason why you are noticing similarities between the situations, this may be why you are noticing yourself being so triggered by the similarities in the communication of other-selves, because you are self labeling yourself as confused or disorganized or disorderly in a mental fashion which is not necessarily the case but it is certainly a belief that you are holding. [18:53 18:53] What better way for you to see that you have this belief but than putting you in a position where you cannot ignore the fact that you believe it.
You believe that you are confused.
Q: Ok, Well if I believe that I am confused and that I am in, I just say in the sensation of being confused, how can I see the holding belief if I am too confused to think ... ha ha to too confused to see out of the chaos. I hope that makes sense.
V[19:34 19:34] Yes, but you are not too confused, because the fact that you are aware of being confused means that you can see it, you are clear about being confused.
Q: ok
V: You are seeing the belief that you are confused and you are seeing discrepancies between the way you are communicating, which perhaps does hold clarity and the reflection that is coming back to you. The reflection that is coming back to you is that you are confused,[ or perhaps it is not is even is, [20:03 20:30] wording?] perhaps it is of clarity, but the belief is telling you that you are confused. or that there is confusion happening.
Q03: Ok.
V: We remind you, that each and every other-self once you have created them, in your reality is in part also a co-creator and that no other-self will ever understand you or your perspective, not because it is you, or your perspective, but because other-selves cannot understand the perspective of another because they can only have their own perspective.
So any form of confusion is not actual confusion it is simply not seeing that one is the same as the other.
Q: Ok.
Q: Is that possible, let me see, there was a question in something you said. If one cannot see the others perspective, I think that's what I said, at least that's how much I got so far.
I lost the question. It had something to do with, if they cant see the others perspective, how can they see that they are the other-self or same or something like that. I don't know if that makes sense.
V: [21:39 21:39] They do not need to, you do not need to see another perspective.
Q: Oh maybe that's part of the problem. And problem is a loose word.
V: Yes
Q: I think I have been taught that must see others peoples perspectives to understand.
V: No. You perhaps have been taught such, but you do not need to see their perspective and they do not need to see yours, so the fear of being misunderstood, it is not your responsibility. To make other people understand you. What may happen and this speaks more to your fear of abandonment or fear of rejection, than it does to actual communication in your now. but what is more important is understanding is if someone does not understand you and therefore decides to no longer be a part or a collaborator in your experience, then that in itself is perfect and exactly how things must unfold, because of course there is free will and it is not your responsibility to make yourself understood.
It is your responsibility to surround yourself with people who are supportive of you and naturally understand you, these are the things which are within your responsibility but you cannot make someone else understand you because they cannot. They cannot naturally understand you. They have their own perspective, their own distortions their own traumas, their own what happened earlier in that day. Their own perception to what it meant to be a woman or a man. What it means to be living in one country or another, they have their biases and they have their own way of interacting with the world and everyone around them.
So your perspective or your intention may not always come across, as you intended it, but that is on the other-self, you may clarify, you may restate your intention but the fear is not necessary, because any any every of which fall away from your experience is in perfect timing for you.
Q04: So why do I feel the fear so deep ?
V: Because you have a belief within you that allows you to feel it deeply.
That is ready to be let go of.
Q: Do I have to be able to connect where that fear comes from ?
V: No, you do not necessary need to dig into your past and find a specific scenario where that has arisen. You may if that feels comfortable to you, for now perhaps it cannot be enough to know that you fear that if your are not communicated clearly that you will be rejected and abandoned.
And realize that this fear is not true in and of itself. We will give the example of a newborn child, a newborn can only cry, and there are parents right in this moment all over the world, who are pulling their hair out because they do not understand why the child is crying, and yes some are abandoned, but the majority of which are held and loved and many of the parents internalize their frustration and say, oh I am a horrible parent, I do not understand my child, but the child the natural born child does not make it self responsibility to make itself understood, it cries because it is natural to cry for it. It does not make the other the parent, it does not force it to understand it, it is simply being itself and what comes from that, is often a supportive action on the part of the parent and sometimes it is not, but the natural state is simply to be who you are and have faith that you will be taken care of.
Q: That's a difficult one of for me. I understand the analogy, but it's a painful one for me.
V: You are not a baby anymore. And the fantastic news is you do not actually need someone else to hold you, you can never abandon yourself unless you choose to. and perhaps this is the learning that is being proposed to you to have countless people around you who are not understanding or who seem to be having difficulty in understanding what you need from them or what you want from them. There is one being who is always available to you, who can always meet your needs, it is you.
Q; I understand that conceptually, yet I feel that I am, I have had enough of it just being me, and I understand I have a very supportive husband, I am not saying that I don't, I am just describing the emotion that that brings up, just to be transparent. Where I am.
V: yes.
There isn't a single other being who is not in your exact same position. Even those that you believe are supported or camaraderie or whatever it is that you think that others have. When you see them interacting with one another, they are all fundamentally alone. [29:11 29:11] There is nothing sad about this.
Q: uhhuh,
V: To want from another-self this support or not even support it is it,
Q: It feels like interaction to me. Mutual interaction or something, at least right now.
V: We will phrase it like this, anything that you are wanting from another self, you are actually wanting from yourself, and if you believe that your needs can be met externally you will be chasing that tail for sometime, before eventually you find that they cannot.
Again, this does not mean it is sad. It means that you are willing and able and ready to meet the needs internally. Interaction can be had without it being a need. And it is of course, in your world, constant, but at the moment is it a need from another- self it means that there is something that you are not meeting within yourself.
Q05: Yeah, I think I get it clearly. I think I'm, my desire for my family interaction with my kids and my husband, those otherselves that I care to interact with, I will just call it that. That desire is something that I have never experienced and I think I long for it greatly. But i realize that that's the human interaction side. But I think if there is a sadness or a loss feeling, that is actually comes from still really desiring it. And that the experience that I long for and hope for. I realize that may never be, it might ir might not and I have definitely learned that my own inner work has brought me much more, I will just say comfort, than anything else ever did before so. I get that, I think I am trying not to mentally put together the spiritual with the ethereal with the human, I am trying to not put it it together but at the same time, I somehow feel like I am in confusion on it a little bit. It's definitely lifting in this conversation.
V: [32:45 32:45] They are connected, they are one you cannot separate the human from the spiritual, you cannot separate the spiritual from the human. So it is a strain perhaps on your mentally to try and do so, there is a calling within your spiritual or even personal sphere at this time, to become more, not independent exactly but self-dependent in that you are not affected so deeply by the response or initiatives or interactions around you. You are actually not that interested in being so ping ponged by everyone around you, this is why you are feeling frustration and irritation because you are feeling like you have to play a game that you are not interested anymore in playing you are becoming far more interested in being yourself authentically, than you are in appeasing others personalities
Q: yeah (quiet)
V: Or trying to make yourself understood, or trying to please others or trying to seem a certain way to others, you are coming into a space where you are beginning to really enjoy who you truly are and want to be able to express that to it's full capacity, we assure you that as you begin to do such and as you work through any fears that you have, or abandonment, that those who are there to appreciate your full capacity will naturally filter into your life as those who are not able to appreciate your full capacity will shuffle out.
But it has to be you to make this decision, to no longer have the fear that everybody will shuffle out and no one else will filter in, you have to like yourself first. You have to have that faith first, and be the first one in line to experience your full self exactly as you are.
Q: yeah.
V: Until such time, every person that you interact with is interacting with a modified and constructed version of you, and you will always feel lonely, because they are not experiencing you and therefore cannot interact with you in the ways that feel fulfilling to you.
It takes bravery perhaps because you are all so conditioned to fear being alone, you are all told your entire lives that you are incomplete, unless you are surrounded by others who accept you, and value you but you also all have gotten into the habit of shifting and modifying yourselves to accommodate to an ideal of what you think is acceptable to others. Therefore no one ever truly knows you.
We know that each and every one of you, any whom with which we speak, is of utmost value of worthiness, and beauty because the creator has created you exactly in the way that you are meant to be, in order to have the experience of the expansion of creation in your unique way. But you contort yourselves, to fit into uncomfortable positions and boxes and you get enough of you all together in a line, contorted into boxes and nobody is genuinely who they are. Nobody can share their gifts and nobody can experience the other-self, in its full glory.
The fear of abandonment is what is keeping you misunderstood or what you believe to be misunderstood because with that fear, that everyone will leave, or that you will be alone, you are changing yourself into a version that is not fulfilling to you.
Q: Yeah that is something that I am trying to be aware of when I make choices sometimes, i see it clearly. There is definitely some hesitation still. Ah, I remember everything we spoke about in the past on that, and with the body and everything and I have noticed hesitation and if there is a sense of, I know I shouldn't try to figure out how, but there is a sense of not stepping or something still. If anything that might have stopped me from meeting with you sooner because I wanted to get to a better state on that. But I guess it's just something I am still working on, and working is not the right word, but have to communicate something... ha ha
Q06: I have noticed some changes though there is a lot of women that I have interacted with that I reached out to, just to communicate with, like people in my course and what not that I met, and I wasn't really sure why I was reaching out to them but interestingly they are all women that had surprisingly, I found out they're in leadership or they are pretty powerful spiritually, there was one I wanted to ask you about that got in touch after Jessie and I were in the launch session and she had a message for me and Jessie, which I shared and it was kind of jumbled, but I listened and held space and at the same time, I thought when Jessie heard it she would share it in more clarity. But she didn't, she asked me what I wanted to know and I couldn't really verbalize it. So I am wondering why these women have come along in my space at this time, but also, I've wondered when speaking to them can I discern the energy.
V: Yes
Q: And I tried to express that to Jessie and it's, I wasn't afraid, I just feel unfamiliar if that makes sense, and yeah, I can't find the word, I put it aside and I just wondered how would I know, and I did see the Law of One Session with Ty, I have transcribed that so I am aware of your answers there, But I am just wondering how can I assess whether I am reading energy and discerning it effectively and I know that there is nothing that is evil or wrong or incorrect, yet I really don't want to go down a effortful or painful path either, you know I would like to at least get my toe in the water sometimes, ha ha with a bit of comfort rather than taking on something thats. I guess it would be similar to if you were taking on horseback ride for the first time, you want to horseback ride a horse that gonna let you as least feel being in the seat rather than you know, tame a wild bronco ha ha.
You are not going to start with the wild bronco kind of thing you know. So I am curious of why these women are all showing up in my space, and if that is some sort of mirror but also I find I am reaching and withdrawing because I don't know, I wish I had skills like Jessie, in terms of reading the energy and I am wondering how to develop that or if I should even. I don't know, I hope this makes some sense.
V: [42:40 42:40] It does, we hear a lot of doubt of your own discernment. It is understandable, but we assure you that each and every one of you has equal levels of discernment for the path that is more conducive of for you, for whatever it is that you are choosing to learn, we understand you have a desire for comfort, we will reiterate that the path of learning is not always necessarily the more comfortable, so to avoid discomfort is often to avoid the swiftest path for learning, so a possibility to circumvent the 'Do I discern energies correctly?' question is more useful, or not useful, is more the question that is more relevant is do I have faith that my higher-self or Source or God, or whatever term, and we know that you do not like the term god, but whatever term that these terms generally point to, does it have your best interest at heart or not ?
You do not have to trust, the energies externally to you.
You have to trust that you are supported but both your soul path and by the universe itself.
If there is any faction of doubt in these two statements, which we know that there is at this time, then you are going to be presented options that are going to seem muddy, because until there is faith, there is no direct clarity. So it is not a skill, and in fact, probably the reason why you had some expectation that Jessie could discern for you, and why she did not, was she cannot discern for you because it is not something in front of her path.
Q: Yeah I think what I was requesting was maybe information and I didn't know how to express it. I do get that she can't discern for me.
V: Not even for you, perhaps she cannot discern at all or does not even have the information because you have to remember that it is your eyes from which you look and the information that you gather out of those eye perspective will be completely different than something from another angle, which is why in fact one should never take on the interpretations of suggestions of another self, because they are not directly in their path.
So to exercise this muscle of discernment, often one has often to dive into the situation that simply feels right, or shy away from the situation that simply feels wrong and see what happens, as you attempt these mini choices, perhaps you will find out that the thing that you avoid would have been an amazing opportunity, and the next time you will say 'Oh perhaps that sensation was not entirely accurate, however, the sensations are always accurate, and something that you think to be good for you may in a moments time suddenly have a sensation of not being so good for you.
As you listen to this over and over again, you will in time be able to see it up ahead, down the road, a little bit further than you would instead of it being right in your face.
With regards to these people coming into your field that are sharing similar archetypes it is because you are calling in that archetype yourself, you do have within you a natural propensity to be a leader or a role model for others and your path at this time is to study or find a level of that admiration, perhaps non personal, in that you do not need to be personally or relationally involved directly with these people. [47:08 47:08] but you having seen other women who are doing things that you do not necessarily see yourself doing yet, but somewhere in the back of your head think that would be something that would be something you would like to attempt for yourself, you will develop your own confidence that you are too are 100% capable of achieving any which goal you have decided to set for yourself.
Q07: Yeah this makes sense. [47:38 47:38]
Some of them were telling me, well one of them were telling me like one of them were saying to me that she thought I was a book publisher, and then I said, well I think you were talking about Jessie, I think you misunderstand because she she wanted to speak. She has a message that were recorded that I shared with Jessie, and part was for me and for Jessie and some of it was channeled apparently, it was written down from previous transmissions or something and in the time, I am not comfortable with anybody saying to me what it is I should do. I don't know if have gained that over the years in find out that that usually doesn't work or If it just didn't resonate, I am not sure. So I withdrew, but there were some parallels in some of the things that she said with visuals or thing I have had before so I wondered if I was resistant of I wondered if I was discerning that that this is her idea and not mine. I wasn't sure.
V: You have created her. Remember. On many levels,
Q: Yeah
V: [48:50 48:50] on your human level, this is a co-creator in your experience you may take that as you would like and apply all of your perceptions of those concepts upon that, but on a higher level why has this person come onto your life path at this time is because you have created her to be on that lifepath therefore the parallels are to allow you to sense a familiarity and that this is a direction or an opening, because it is an invitation an opening to a broader experience of interacting with more other-selves and perhaps not everything that she said resonated because it simply does not resonate with you.
This is how you try out ideas.
Q: uh huh
V: Another-self proposes perhaps you should be a book publisher, your inner self says no I don't want to do that, it is not because they see more than you or have an accurate perception of you et cetera, it is because you are giving yourself the opportunity to say yes or no to a proposal that you yourself are giving. So, in that moment in time you were asking yourself, would you like to be a book publisher ? Your response in that moment, was No. Tomorrow perhaps you can change your mind and an opportunity can knock from a publishing company who says that they need someone who has your exact skillset and would you like to work with them and in 5 years time you may find yourself a book publisher.
Q: Uhmm.
V: You see it is not that everything is either Yes or No, or comes from the external or internal and you have to decipher it, in fact it is all one thing. So a possibility is to see everything with the same eyes that you look at a forest, there is that expression that you can't see the forest for the trees, because if you are standing right up against any one tree, you can't see the whole picture. It is comprised of individual trees, but you are not able to enjoy the sound of the leaves cracking beneath your toes, or the smell of the moss if you are focused on each tree directly in front of you. Take a step back and see the entire experience of your adventure in the woods. Without assigning any significant importance to this tree in on my path and then this tree is on my path and then this tree is on my path. You have more flexibility and you are more expansive than having to focus on the details. You can relax into the fact that this is a journey and appreciate now that you are in the part of the forest where all of these amazingly successful or leadership oriented women are now in your vista. It does not mean you have to go and hug each tree.
Though you may if you find one you particularly like. [52:14 52:14]
Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you.
Q08 :[ 52:21 52:21] I feel I would like to ask you about something on the Gene Keys course I am doing.
V: Yes.
Q: A little bit on human design.
V: Yes
Q: I know that is somewhat matters and it somewhat doesn't but I don't know my birthtime and I have been using it as 2:00am it was what my mom told me but I think she has it confused with my birth weight, I don't have any way of finding it out and I understand that this is a game and a system, But I am wondering if what I have as a profile, can you tell me if its accurate enough that I am using that I am actually looking at things pertinent to me and I mean that in a loose sense.
V; If it is resonant, it is pertinent.
Q: Ok.
V: You may find that is it resonant now and at a future time have your birth time confirmed or perhaps the date, even changed and have a completely different profile and in terms in these systems where the planets were aligned in a different way, where you were, and perhaps then that profile will be more resonant, what is important is that you at any point on your path are being presented with the information that is most conducive to the learning that you are wanting to have at that time. So whatever it is that you are coming across that is feeling resonant you are free to adopt, not as identity, but as a learning tool towards learning more or yourself, not yourself as you were created before time, or fated to be, but the yourself that you are wanting to create yourself in this now to be.
Therefore if there is something written on any piece of paper, about you that feels positive you are free to adopt that, in your new version that you are creating of yourself at any time, if there is something that feels negative you are free to not adopt that and instead look at why something having said, something similar to that of you feels negative and learn from that what you can. If it simply feels completely irrelevant and completely disrelated to anything on your path at this time, you are also completely free to disregard any aspect of that. These systems and you know every experience in your life's path, is in place for you to teach yourself more of who you would choose to want to be in this now and tomorrow.
Q: uh huh, Thank you.
V: Thank you.
Q09: Another thing is is that, my husbands profile, we saw that, we didn't know his birth time but he appears to be a manifestor and in speaking to Jessie, about communication she has taught me some things that are effective in communication with people who like that communication style. And I am wondering if you can tell me are we close enough on this chart that seems to fit. I do find communication with him sometimes rather challenging in the ways we already spoke of but I'm just. My desire is to be more effective, not to fit a pattern.
V: Yes. We would say that as with any of these systems at times they are useful for finding patterns between similarities between incarnational individuations, the best way to interact with your partner, your husband would be to perhaps find out if these guidelines that apply to this type in this system feel good to him, because in the end it is not the time or place or date in which you were born on a physical planet that determine your disposition. It is that perhaps your disposition is facilitated by you being born in that time and place. So which came first the chicken or the egg. Were you a manifestor before you were born, or a manifestor because you were born on that time and date and place. Of course, your soul intention existed before any concept, Therefore the easiest way, especially if the system is not being adopted by the other-self is to perhaps for you learn some of the shorthand for that type and then check in with him. Perhaps he is a typical of that type, perhaps he is not that type at all, like you said, there is no certainty of the time or date in some cases.
So the interaction with him directly could be helpful. If you present this information to him and he resonates with it deeply, then you have a very effective guidebook to interacting almost a cheat sheet or a user manual on how to interact more smoothly, but remember that you too have your own preferences of interaction. And that as you come to love and appreciate and accept yourself, you too have the right to outline to others how you would like to be interacted with and then they can choose whether or not that is possible in their experience.
So it is not all on you, but the question was would he fit that mold, No. He will not because there is no actual mold. There is a possibility of a system, allowing for you and you have found is and therefore created it to perhaps allow you some more ease because it is related to a guidelines. but it is you who has put it in place.
So interact with this other-self and find out if it feels correct for him. [59:25 59:25]
And that will open communication between the two of you as well.
Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you.
Q: I kind of knew what you were going to say, but you still gave me more clarity, ha ha.
V: yes we are very repetitive.
Q: No it's fine, its perfect right now.
Q: If I can ask one more question if there is time.
V: Yes.
Q: I have noticed that like, with me and my body and caring for my body and self care, which I have been working on since, but I am finding that I am really almost unmotivated and introverted and tired lately, and I am just wondering if you can point me to anything to help to kind of break this pattern or circuit. I really am trying to listen, I don't know if some of the heaviness I was related to what we have already discussed. But I that's been part of frustration too, so if there is anything that you can point me to. I know I am still working on what you have already given me. Ha ha I just find it feels overwhelming a lot of the time still.
Not what you gave me to do, just my body feels tired and heavy and.
V: Is there any way for you to accept it ?
Q: I'll work on that more, I think I have some of the time, the duration seems tiresome sometimes. But I will try, I have sort of accepted the fact that I may sleep 2 hours and I may sleep 8, you know in that sense, to give myself some freedom that way.
V:[ 1:01:421:01:42] Yes, we would say that this is the root. That we are sensing because many of you are in this space now where you are being asked to accept what perhaps in your lives and past experiences - and this is collectively we are speaking that you each individually, have within you scenarios that you believe are unacceptable.
That is it perhaps unacceptable for you to not be able to function physically because you are too tired. Or there is another that finds it unacceptable to have feelings of sadness. And you are in a phase where you are being asked to accept the unacceptable, not because that is just how things are, but because you are being asked to cultivate and expand your understanding of love and self-love so that what will manifest in this period are those aspects of you, and this may tie in with the emotional sensations you have been having recently, the aspects of you that you least would like to admit or include in your ideal versions. The challenge, and paradox is that in this manifestation lies the key to releasing it completely. The accepting that you are as you are in each moment whether it be tired or sad or any other manner of unacceptable situation is what will free you of those scenario's for as they are seen and accepted they are no longer necessary.
In your case, the tiredness is also related to not being active in the ways that you would like to be active in terms of not perhaps expressing yourself in the ways you would like to express yourself or doing the things that you would like to be doing which will give you much energy, so again it comes back to your Joy, what you find joyful. When you are tired lean into those things and put less pressure on yourself, use your tiredness as a moment to say, oh good I am tired, which means that now I am allowed to have a joyful experience, I am allowed to do that thing that makes me feel good.
Does this make some sense ?
Q: Yes, how do I do what's joyful when I am not sure what it is, and I am trying to discover that, but that question came up.
V: Experiment.
Q: Ok, that is what I have been doing I think.
V: Yes.
Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you.
V: [1:05:49 1:05:49] Is there any other lingering ponderings or statements.
Q10: Yeah, maybe just with my family. I still have distance with my parents and my dad called last week and I got really, I coughed so hard I could not talk to him and I realized I was very stressed that I was going to have to tell him that I had been in touch with my brother, that who I haven't met in 35 years and my father would be displeased to hear that. So I realize that my cough was serving me then and just wondering, I know we talked about it a lot, I will continue to work that way. But do you have any new pointers in this time.
V: No, aside from have patience with with yourself as you release this sense of obligation.
That you are carrying and have patience that it is a long time not just in this lifetime but this is a lesson you have been wanting to experience or many rounds if you would call it that you know that we have explained that it is simultaneous but allow yourself to know that you are doing the work, that your body, is your ally, that you are indeed correct that the manifestation of the physical discomfort was there specifically to relieve you of some of this pressure at this time. The not needing to have that conversation in that moment, so patience for yourself, love for yourself, knowing that no matter what has transpired in the past that the perceptions of these individuals, upon who you are in this now is no longer correct, and whether or not your father has an opinion about how you interact with beings on this planet, his soul contract with those beings is not the same as yours and his opinion upon it has no value in your soul contract with the other-self.
But you do indeed have a soul contract with him to learn to overcome this discomfort.
He is there to show you you have discomfort of being criticized or judged by him. And this is a opportunity to say. Well I have this discomfort, of being judged and criticized by this person. Look at that, say well why do I have this ?
Oh, I see it is because I have a fear of being abandoned again. I have a fear of being rejected again, this person has the power to hurt me through their displeasure, I believe I am responsible for how they feel about what I am about to tell them.
You are not responsible. For how they feel about how they feel about you speaking with your brother. That is on THEM. If your father chooses to be upset, and chooses to blame his upset upon you, it is still on him. He is wasting his life energy by trying to manage his feelings through another person which is impossible to do.
Q: Yeah, that is something I see clearly.
V: Do do not take on his upset. Do not relieve him of it. He is entitled to feel upset. You taking on any blame, or shame or confrontation robs him of of his negative feelings which he is choosing to have. Allow him to have his negatiive feelings say
Yes Father you are feeling very upset in this moment, I really wish you could see life in a different way. So that you did not have to feel this feeling in this time and I hope that you heal from this negative habit soon. I love you very much. I wish you well. Have a nice holiday.
Q: Thank you.
V: It is a service you will do for him to allow him to have his feeling back.
They are his and this is a behavior that we can suggest that you begin to practice, with others it leads back into the discussion, of not wanting to upset others or hurt them.
Remember that everyone is responsible for their own feelings. it is not your job to micromanage your communication or micromanage how it will land, this is also a conversation we had earlier, it is not your job to make sure that you are understood and this is a nice circle back to the beginning of this session.
It is always inteconnected is it not ?
Q: Yes it is, Thank you. Thank you so very much, I feel so much more myself now.
V: And we do like you ever so much so please endeavor to be yourself because everyone else is already taken, correct ?
Q: ha ha ha Yes.
V: Thank you. You are safe and you are loved. And with that we bid you farewell and with the light of a thousand suns. Anainai. [1:12:11 1:12:11]
Q: Thank you.
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