Good Evening to you lovely beings, it is our pleasure to meet with you at this time. This non-time time and share with you in this experience of connection. It is very pleasant for us to share with many faces, share in your connection to one another.
It is not common for us to be interacting with ones who are so interlinked, it has been more commonplace when groups of beings have accumulated in our presence, with our presence that they were connected, but more on a shared interest level as opposed to a relational level and we are very excited for the conversation that will come forth at this time. We invite you to feel into what it is you would like to inquire upon or discuss and when you are ready we welcome any of such.[09:23 09:23]

Q: Well I would like to introduce myself, I am Rob, I am the dad

V: Hello Rob.

Q: Nice to meet you.

V: And you.

Q01:[Rob] I am going through a bit of a crisis in my life right now and and I am just wondering what I have done to get to this point in my life. What have I done here wrong. Why am I going through this ?

V: [ 10:02 10:02] Rob you are loved, you have done nothing wrong. Absolutely, and in every way you have done nothing wrong, and though it may seem in this space, in this moment, in this now that what you are experiencing is a crisis. It in itself is also not wrong, or incorrect. It is not a punishment, it is not a sentence. It is not something that is out of place, in that it is on your path, on your journey because it is the best possible path or best possible direction for you on a higher level or even on this particular incarnate level to arrive in your souls journey, in your beings journey, at the beings evolution of self that you truly deeply preincarnation wanted within this lifetime. This does not mean that the pain that you are feeling is insignificant. Or that it should be disregarded, for the experience or the swift learning of catalyst is through the sensations that it stimulates.

You are held by the universe. You are held in this and have the strength and the wherewithal inside of you, to, we would like to use the word exist or be with and through this difficult time. Or what you see as difficult time.

Q02: [Rob] Can I ask what is causing this issue ? Is it environmental, something that I am exposing myself to ? Through work or through food or drink or is it just something that is happened ?

V: [13:08 13:08] We see within you that this seeking for self blame or the question you asked earlier, 'the what did I do to cause this ?' is a hint towards the resolution of it. You have perhaps the idea that you are responsible for more than you actually are from a human perspective. You are indeed as the creator, as a individuation of the one infinite creator or the All-That Is, or the Universe, or Source, indeed responsible and creating all that you see and all that there is but the human incarnate element of you is taking on the idea or belief of responsibility that holds more of a punitive flavoring perhaps, than a surrendering or releasing flavor and with this energy of looking to blame yourself, you are causing more stress or anxiety. We believe that you can, if you would like, optimize your physical vehicle through making choices that you already know to consume and place yourself in more healthy environments consuming healthier foods, making choices for your well being. You have enough access to information to experiment with these, but we would say that is it less useful to be seeking the 'grain of sand' that has caused the irritation in the oyster, while trying to form it's pearl. The moment where if you were to open and shuck the oyster, you would find nothing but a lump or semi-formed jewel, with patience and yes irritation and yes discomfort perhaps. There will be at some point a realization within you that all of this has had it's value or will have had it's value. But please attempt to start from the moment that you are in instead of looking for a cause, look for a solution. Or head towards a solution, is a better term. And the solution is always within oneself. [16:49 16:49]

Q03:[Rob] So on the subject of solution, I now have a mechanical device in my eye that's not useful, and not preforming anything at the moment. Can you give me an answer on where the situation.. Should it be removed ? or do I continue on the same path, of treatment that I am on with the doctors that I am currently seeing ?

V: [17:52 17:52] We do not see that there would be any difference with the path that you take, but you are uncomfortable currently with the [18:09 18:09 pending??) situation that you are in. This discomfort is not helping, so we can tell you that you do not wish to continue on this particular path. If this is the case we would advice following your own instinct and your own guidance on this. We do not see at this moment a direction that would be more serving to you, because in this particular moment the space where you are in, the confusion, that you are facing, the discomfort that you are facing is teaching you vast skills that will serve both you and others and it is not so much related to your physical eye. Though this is not news that you would like to hear from us. Or from what you would consider higher wisdom. See a [purpose ? 19:39 19:39] in your situation. We see far more purpose in your situation than you do. Our suggestion therefore is to look for the purpose in your situation. Why is this beneficial ? Why ? What is is teaching ? What are you learning ? How can you be comfortable in the discomfort. But yes. [20:13 20:33]

Q04: [Rob] Can you help me with that ? What I am supposed to learn from this? Or is that something I am on my own on ..

V: [ 20:25 20:25] You are never on your own. We will see whether we are able to share
at this time, you are using us, after all as a permission slip to know more of yourself.
We are not separate from you. We would you not lead you however down a path in which you do not have choice. So that is paramount to you, to all. Physical ailment is a subject in your peoples because you are so closely attached to your physical vessels, that you believe yourselves to be your physical vessels. You believe that there is a archetype of a fully functioning physical vessel. That one should strive to and if one is not in a what you would call a fully functioning fashion or model of human, then there is something fundamentally wrong. Your body is as spiritual as any other part of you, often when you hear people talking about the spiritual significance of ailments, you then judge yourselves further you say if there was a problem with the eye there is something I am not seeing. There must be something wrong with me that I am not able to see my emotions or distortions or weaknesses but it is not necessarily the case, it is not the case that there is something wrong with that, it is your body telling you, signing you towards that and often when the body is not functioning or seems to be not be functioning it is really a case that another version of perfection was needed for your particular body. So it is possible that the version or perfection for your particular incarnation is a being who is having difficulty in seeing, who is having deterioration in their physical eye or eyes.

Can you imagine or visualize a man a wise man, an old man who has gone through and survived the worst case scenario that you can currently imagine for your future and yet is happy and yet is peaceful, and yet is able to spread love and joy, whose experiences with that catalyst with that worst case scenario were exactly those that taught them compassion, love, that showed them the path to unity, that allowed them to let go of or shed their attachment to physical and in that case visual and now has a seeing that is beyond what regular humans can see. Because that is a version of you. Another version of you could be someone who tomorrow, has a chance meeting with a stranger who has a solution to the problem that is at hand and 3 months from now all this is in the past with your ideal outcome. Your perfect outcome. And perhaps you didn't learn that compassion perhaps you didn't learn that seeing or that wisdom. See there are infinite paths.
The one that you are on is perfect for the direction that you want to go in. No-one can see their path, you clearly are not seeing your path. But the good news is that you don't have to, the universe has your back, it is taken care of. The only work perhaps that you have to do is to to get all of that fear out of you, all of that belief that somehow some other version of you could have been better or would have been better, or should have been better.
You used the word crisis earlier. A crisis can only be a crisis if there is panic because it is a label. It feels that way. Yes. So what is truly the most uncomfortable aspect of this, is how you feel about it. You have [ 26:46 26:46 (word missing ) ] over that, by choosing which thoughts you think, and if you don't choose thoughts that feel good in this moment, you have this moment, and this moment, and this moment, to choose again.

Q05: [Rob] What about I bad feel [audible tears on audio ] the stress I am putting on the rest of my family, because they have to take care of me.

V: Yes

Q: [Rob]: I feel terrible about that

V: Yes

Q:[Rob] I am disrupting their whole life.

V: [27:46 27:36] No. They too are on their optimal path. They have the opportunity to serve someone they love or not, should they choose, in a way that they would not have had the opportunity otherwise. This again should they choose, will teach them things that they would not have known otherwise and you, as we said at the beginning of this meeting, have a special bond with family members, very close soul bonds, you were all aware of the potential and not only the potential but the beautiful opportunity that this timeline would give you all in your learning journeys. You are in agreement to arrive at this crossroads, to have the obstacles and challenges you are facing, both as individuals and as a unit. And the guilt is not serving, it is not serving you, it is not serving them.

We suggest to alleviate this particular emotion to shift every time you sense guilt to gratitude, instead of 'I feel terrible, I am disrupting their lives'. 'I feel so grateful that they choose to aid me'. Because it will reflect in your energy, you will be more available to share in what you can share with them, because it is not a one way street. Because someone needs help does not, mean that they cannot themselves help others. [30:01 30:01]

You are free to let go of the guilt for you as a human did not choose. Again we reflect back to your searching for fault, searching for your own blame within this circumstance. You believe it is your fault, you believe you are to blame. Even if this were the case, which it is not, there is nothing one can do about fault and blame because it is not occurring in this moment. You can grab this moment and choose a better thought, one of gratitude, one of the wise man, or one of the healed man.

Q: [Rob] So, thank you for all that, thank you for so much.

V: Yes.

Q06: [Rob] So moving forward from here, can you give me some insight on how that might playout. In what I am to do from here forward to help me and keep me in the right direction and..

V: [31:50 31:50] Yes, you are always heading in the right direction, for even if you are heading in the direction opposite of the direction which you believe you are meant to go into, the discomfort that you face on that path will turn your feet and you will head back swiftly in the direction of your highest timeline. Or of the timeline that feels better to you.
So your discomfort, your sadness, your guilt, your fear, all of these things are teaching you, and that you no longer want to feel them.

Moving forward it would be wise to listen to your feelings, your emotions, and evaluate whether or not you want to feel that way, if you do not want to feel that way, thank them, because they are turning you in the direction of the emotions you do want to feel. On a practical level, we said earlier that it would be well for you to take better care of yourself.

Research all of the possibilities for health that you come across. We see you as somewhat of a health-nut in the near future. What you would consider perhaps even extreme in terms of taking care of yourself. As we said in terms of your medical team, we feel that you do not believe in the team that you are currently associated with because this is the case, and your disbelief in them we do believe it would be in your interest to find a team that you do have more faith in, because of course your intention, and your faith will guide outcome and we do hear the resistance in you to this suggestion [34:03 34:03] we hear how you have come up with a million reasons to why that would become difficult for you, to find a new team and or to become more healthy. Look at this resistance, don't look it it sort of as a critical person. But really as a curious being and say to yourself why is it that when there is a suggestion towards my well being, I can immediately come up with a whole bunch or reasons why that can't be possible. Whether it's finance or inconvenience.

Q:[Rob] You are so wise.

V: We just see. And we have no eyes.

Q: [Rob][ laughs]. Good one.

V: You family loves you, you are supported by them. And you have a strong a close enough relationship that they will tell you when they are annoyed with you.

Q07: [Rob] Can I find in alternative treatment close to where I am ? Location wise
or do I have to travel in miles.

V: [36:05 36:05] No you don't have to travel. You can not only find but create with your intention, see the universe is malleable. You may wake tomorrow to find that this alternative treatment or person, practitioner, has always been living 3 doors down. Or is available at the touch of a button. You can create this by intending to create this by knowing that anything is possible, keeping your eyes open. Having the expectation that of course, or course there is a treatment that will bring some relief that is nearby. If you believe that you will have to travel, then that is something that will occur as well.

Q: [Rob] But you said...

V: But it doesn't have to

Q: [Rob] But in reality it would make no difference, its my own [delegate, delicate ? 37:28 37:28] and my own situation that is causing. I mean I do like my Dr. Roddy, I do really like him. But it has been frustrating, the whole treatment that I have receive

V: It is not your doubt that is causing the issue. The issue is there because it is teaching you, or it is there because it is of value to you. Not even teaching you, because I do not want to leave you with the impression that if you learnt the lesson faster you would be out of this 'mess' or' crisis'. It is not that you have some sort of exam that you have to study for and then things will get back to normal . It is that this catalyst is the grain of sand that is turning into the pearl.

Q: Ok.

V: With regards to your practitioners, it is not that what they are doing is not functioning because of your doubt. It that your doubt is making the situation less comfortable for you. and adding unnecessary discomfort to the situation.

Q:[ Rob] I see

V: So we have suggested that if this is the case, you may find more comfort in a team with which you have more faith.

Q: [Rod] I see, got yah. Thank you for clarifying that.

V: Thank you.

Q:[Rob] So before we run out of time my beautiful daughter and my lovely wife have a few questions [emotion, tears on audio] they would like to ask you.

V: Yes.

Q: [Rob] Thank you, thank you for everything.
V: Thank you.

Q: [Chelsie] There is nothing else you wanted to ask ?
Q: [Rob] No I don't

Q08: [ Chelsie] Well there is a question, I think it would be great if, It's my question and everyone else is kind of curious for themselves. My question is: What is next for my sustainability ? And how to play this life game regarding, well you get what I mean, while easily accessing my natural gifts. Does that, do I need to say more ?

V: Yes, please clarify sustainability.

Q: [Chelsie] Sustainability is to have a steady flow of resources, specifically money coming in and doing work that I love.

V: [40:43 40:43] And that emotion, that is arising within you, is showing you that you have some beliefs within you that are completely inaccurate. The first one that we can clearly hear is that you believe that you are not able to do what you love and have a financial income and that is something that you very much desire. But you do not believe that desiring it is enough. You have been conditioned to have beliefs that there is some sort of cost for having a desire. However the desire was there before you knew of money. The desire to be who you are to be allowed to be who you are and appreciated and value for that existed before you had any concept of money. The beliefs that was not possible were added upon that and ironically it is the beliefs themselves that make that energy inaccessible to you. You are always sustained in the exact frequency that you are believing yourself into. For you we would say the first steps are to begin to believe that it is possible even if you do not yet see the direction. And as you move into more of being exactly who you are, as you are - naturally inspiration that marries with financial security will arrive to you. Or will appear in your experience, and acting upon these inspirations, and these desires, will lead in its non linear fashion to your continued support, your continued resources flowing towards you.

You are very resourceful in yourself, and extremely entrepreneurial, you have the ability to create something from nothing, and to begin you must let go of the fear. Just start. [44:53 44:53]]

Q09: [Rob] Could I just ask a quick question, for me in the state that I am in, because I can't currently work my job, is there also an opportunity for me to provide some kind of new income or some new kind of purpose in life while I am going through this, or is it something I just need to ride out at first and then move on.

V: There is always the opportunity for you to have whatever it is that you would like to have. So our answer is whole heartedly 'Yes', you are capable and able to do whatever it is that you would love to do. Moment to moment, and if in this moment you are not able to do something specifically in your imagination, there is still a myriad of things that you can do in each moment. We see for you, that your experience would benefit many others, your day to day recounting of what you are going though, with candor, would aid someone going through the same. For example. How you turn that into an income and all the other questions that are currently running in your mind are simply conditioning. They are simply your doubts and fears, trying to make your life easy for you. By saying that you can't do something or it doesn't make sense to do something, but you can. As big a you dream is as big as you can be we promise this. This is your universe and your experience and your life and and you can make with it what you would [ words missing 47:08 47:08]

Q:[Rob] Thank you.

V: Thank you.

Q: [ Sarah] So I am Robs wife Sarah

V: Hi Sarah

Q: Pleased to meet you.
V: Hello.

Q10: [Sarah] What's my role in Rob's healing ? Like what, I am not sure. [ emotional, tears in audio] I am trying to be as positive as I can. I just want to know if I am doing everything I can like I began to research his healing and

Q: [ Chelsie] And to read to him the Vagrein book too huh... ha ha

Q: [Sarah] Yes I do that, sorry, I can do that [ some side conversation]

V: [48:05 48:05] Yes, you are doing everything correct. This is your learning as well and again we do not mean learning as if some sort of learning that if it is hastened things will be better. No this is perfect. It is perfect for you to have this challenge, this catalyst, this opportunity in your experience at this time. It it perfect for you to have this discomfort, this doubt, this fear and this love. The three of you are oozing with love in this entire meeting. oozing with care and desire for each other to be happy. And well and safe, and out of fear and comfortable.

You see many beings walk though their entire experience with people by their sides and they never come across any form of difficulty. And they create it for themselves in their relationships, they get bored, they get distracted. It is those who have challenges that come together and get to experience together what it truly means to be human. What it truly means to be in a physical vessel. With the full range of emotions, they get to experience being present and how to appreciate the small and beautiful things that come into their daily experience. Do not take for granted the beauty that what you have called a crisis offers you. It of course does not mind and does not judge you. The Universe does not judge that you are not understanding the gifts. It does not mind.

But you are closer, than you were before and your role in the healing is to be that partner. Is to be simply there and in experience with and document and yes you are researching adequately. It may be the case for you two, for example to take on the 'mad diets' that you research of take on the behaviors that you have suggested yourself as an example.
To facilitate the changes, you can even make a game of it. Who can eat the most kale.
Let's say

Q: We both love it so, it will be pretty challenging to see who will eat more of it.

V: And what fun you will have.
You may all let go of your guilt, there is no one to blame.
You may all let go of your fear. You are supported, you will find solutions. If you stop imagining everything to be a disaster. They come to you the solutions, you don't have to seek them, you just have to make space for them to arrive.

Q: [Rob] Thank you for that.

V: Thank you.

Q: [Rob] Want to ask... were you going ?

Q11: [ Chelsie] Regarding career and the sustainability question I had earlier. I'm wondering if you can share some insight as to where I should be focusing my attention, when moving towards something new that is on it's way to me.

V: [52:58 52:58] On what feels good. If it feels good to you, it is moving in the correct direction for things more things that feel good to you. If as you said, financial abundance feels good to you, then, that is in the long list of other things that feel good to you. And if you consistently choose things that feel good and consistently feel good, then more things will arrive to you that come from that same list. Including your, we truly dislike this word 'sustainability'. We believe it would be of benefit to remove it from your vocabulary and find a word that it more lighthearted. The word sustainability implies that it could be some other way 'not sustained'. But it is always sustained. What you are actually seeking is a thriving or a or a abundance or a magnitude of wellbeing and wealth. Correct ?

Q: Correct

V: So focus on that. If you would like to be sustained, someone can bring you a glass of water and several crackers per day.

Q: [ Laughter] or kale.

V: Indeed.

Q: [Laughter]

V: There are benefits to not having tastebuds.

Q: Yeah, thank you. [ side chatter not audible]

Q12: [Chelsie] And where I am currently living. I just feel like I am over it I have been there for about 7 years now. And It just doesn't feel great, and hasn't really.

V: So move.

Q: [Chelsie] Yeah, so - this. So I am looking at southern california, is that, it feels more supportive when I am down there, but I am wondering if you have any other insights of places where

Q: [Sarah] need be in abundance

Q: [Chelsie] Where I can't see currently. In this moment.

V: [55:34 55:34] Does it feel only more supportive ?

Q: [Chelsie] It feels better, it feels good when I am down there.

V: [55:52 55:52] Is good, good enough for you ?

Q: [ Chelsie] Well that's a good point. ha ha ha

V: [56:07 56:07 ]We will rephrase because perhaps the question was loaded in that we knew the answer and we don't believe you have access to the answer we want to hear you say, if we phrase the question in that way. So is good enough, good enough for your soul ?

Q: [Chelsie]: I'm still not really getting it.
Just that I am settling. Like why can't it be a 'fuck yes' to move or like something.

V: Where is that space ? in you ? Where is that excitement ? What would it need to be like for you to be absolutely certain that it's something that calls to you, what is it in you, what is your soul perhaps that is not the correct word but we are meaning your higher self your inner being, what is is wanting ? from it's living arrangements and do you to allow yourself to imagine that for yourself.

California is nice, where you are living is not as nice. Nice is the best. No. So, there is a belief holding you to not wanting something that is absolutely amazing, for yourself. We cannot tell you where that absolutely amazing place would be, because you do not allow yourself to hit the vibration of what that would be like. Of course any move out of "I am not feeling it anymore' is an improvement. But to transfer your entire life to a another location only to find that it's 'kind of alright'

Q: [Chelsie] ha ha ha

V: [ 58:34 58:34] Doesnt' seem to be the best use of your time. For you we would suggest and exercise in finding your excitement, and you asked 'what direction to move in, to move' in the direction that you would like to move in, how to comport yourself day to day

Just do what feels good. Get you know yourself again, get to know your desires. Allow yourself to desire things, and give them to yourself. If you want. To eat the ice cream instead of the kale then go ahead and do that.

Q: [Chelsie] ha ha

V: For you it is important to get that spark going, because what is in you will lead to so many beautiful things and it will lead to that abundance. To that wealth, not only of location or financial but wealth of spirit, wealth of being, the ability to enjoy the moment fully. And to know that you are living your life instead of allowing it to live you.

But Yes, move.

Perhaps it has been in part that location and circumstance that has consistently eroded away at your desire. And has become commonplace to accept mediocrity from what is around you, but the fact that it even feels mediocre means that there is something in you that wants more. So, get to know that voice and begin to follow it's hints and clues because it is leading you to everything that you want.

We would invite you. The three of you, if you have another question, or some quick questions to

Q13: [ Sarah] Tell me about my spirit guides. I don't know if I, I don't think I have been listening to them lately. Do you know any clue what they are telling me lately to do ? Or Is that a dumb question. ha ha

V: [1:01:37 1:01:37] Well you are certainly more connected to them than we are.
It is not a dumb question. It is one we hear often. It points more to a confusion than a dis, an inability to hear them. The way you hear them is. Get still.

And we suggest for all of you if you do not regularly practice mediation to do so. Get still. And listen with your ears at first to your physical environment. To be furthest, and furthest is not quite the correct word. But most profound sound that you can hear with your physical ears. It will be past the electronic sounds of the television or the computers in your environment, it will be past the sounds of your breathing and your heartbeat. Listen further and further, and then listen beyond that and the thoughts and words that come into your mind as you listen with an openness, with an openness of what do you have to tell me, of course referring to your own guides, well they will start talking and they seem to be imagination, or you may begin to be distracted and think its something else, but really instead of thinking try to listen, listen, listen to the thought, beyond them, beyond, and it will begin to dawn on you. Of course you know this because you said you haven't been listening to them recently.

We would suggest also to look at why you are choosing to not listen to them, because that too is a choice.

Are you afraid of what you might hear ?

Q:[Sarah] uhhm

V:[1:04:16 1:04:16 ] Don't be afraid. You are safe.

And you may have to feel feelings, all of you, you have feelings in you that you are afraid to feel. Feelings cannot harm you, they are simply information for you the information cannot be delivered without you feeling them. As soon as you allow yourself to feel you feelings completely you get information through them. They do not harm you. So another practice is to allow yourselves to really get upset or freak out, or feel the rage or feel the sadness, or the despair, you will not be in that feeling forever. You do not have the energy to maintain the intensity of the feelings you believe that if you allowed yourself to feel you would be in forever. It is just energy moving. Allow it to move through and you are free of it plus you get the benefit of the information it was trying to give to you.

Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you.

V: [1:05:41 1:05:41] We believe that it good advice to leave you with and that the only thing that we would add at this time, is that you are all doing a wonderful job. You are all perfectly in step with the dance of life, and you can have faith, and lean into the comfort of knowing just that when it doesn't seem that you know anything else. The universe is holding you and loves you and is grateful to you for the roles and parts you are playing.
And we wish you the love and the light of a thousand suns - Anainai.

Q: [ Rob] Thank you so much.

Q: Thank you.