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30-09-2020 - Group

Q00: V: [07:24 07:24 Good now to you all. We are pleased that you have joined us in this fashion on this day, in this time, in this space, in this now. We are need of good humor 07:47 07:47] as should you all be. For there truly is no reason to step outside of your good humor at any time. No good reason, it is unnatural to you to be in the states that you have become habituated to states of discomfort, suffering, pain, these are all foreign to you. You believe they are natural, simply become accustomed to them, but your natural and primary experience of existence is that that you held as a child, it is that wonder and joy, causeless, when you had needs of course you expressed them and they were met or they should have been, in what would be your natural world, you are here in this experience however to have the discomfort teach you to choose outside of what you would naturally, to experiment perhaps because at some point in your evolutionary path you discovered that joy and bliss on a constant level were quite mundane. It is because you strive for excitement that you have decided to add so many challenges to your existence. This is both courageous and foolish, but ultimately, inconsequential. If you could remember this all your trials and tribulations would return to their natural expression of, for you could not take any of your trials or challenges quite seriously anymore and then your only form of entertainment will be the hilarity with which you experience the rest of your incarnation experience knowing what you know beyond that realization or remembrance. It is a hilarious joke if we could use inflection properly, and facial expression properly. We would all be laughing. For this monologue would seem far less serious and would have the gregarious exuberance with which we transmit it.

How are you all today. ? [12:24 12:24]

Host: So happy to be here with you.
V: We are happy too

Host: We look forward to that expression of hilarity coming through.

We do have the first question if you are ready ?
V: Yes we are.

Host: Ok Gabriel, can you accept the unmute, and you can proceed please.

Q: Thank you, can you hear me ok ?
V: Yes, we can.

Q01: [12:57 12:57] Thank you, I have a question about a dream, I have always had very vivid detailed dreams, that I remember from childhood, right now and most of them seem to be symbolic, and to do with whatever I am dealing with personally but some of the dreams have to do with others and when I share it with those others tend to be very accurate to their current experience and somewhat helpful to them to share with them, an then there are other things that are happening in the world, that I am dreaming about. And I suppose my question is how do dreams really assist us ?

I think that's the best way that I can phrase it.

V: [14:01 14:01] Yes we will answer both of your questions.

The first being that you know that you know that you are not solely physical in this existence your consciousness has many planes, there is an aspect that controls your physical vehicle, that physical vehicle goes into a sleep state, at night or in the day when you choose to sleep, your brain changes the frequency with which brainwaves are produced, allowing for other aspects of your consciousness to not detach but elongate themselves from your physical vessel, not that they were ever attached in the first place.
You must understand that there is some confusion about how consciousness works, it is more your body that is attached to your consciousness as opposed to your consciousness attached to your body, but in the dream state you are able. You to elongate yourself to meet or match consciousness, that is what would be considered part of another individuated being. Or course if it their elongated version as well that you are encountering. And information can be exchanged, between to what would seem separate consciousness, in other for each to support one another, the messages that you are obtaining in a dream state when meeting with the so called other, are because you have some form of soul contract with that so called other, that allows you to be a guide or guardian for them while you are both incarnate or they are a guide or a guardian for you, and it is a question of what encounters you have during that dream, whether or not they are guiding you or you are guiding them, it is always symbiotic. And so in this way dreams can be used for what is often done on a non-physical level, from your guides, your higher selves, the angel realms, entity groups such as us, in that you have encounters with such beings and you in your non physical state are encountering also other-selves.

Your dreams, those more symbolic also aid you in that they are messages, given to you either by your own higher self or you own guides, or as we expressed in the example where it is you that is going to give aid to another physical being, guides that you currently have in your life. Arrives to you in the form of symbols, because your brain is at the level at that time to accept symbols, and not direct conscious encounter, so for example, in your dream state when you encounter someone else, and you find that there is some clue or key that you would like to deliver to them, you may have a conversation with this other being in your dream state that they will then dream but not in that they had a conversation with you, in that they found a stick on the beach and it turned into a snake for example.
because the interpretation of the information packets, depends upon each individuation and a million other factors relating to their path, what they are choosing to learn, what their higher self will allow and will not allow, their level of usage of their free-will and many other factors.

Your dreams serve you in as much as you are able to understand a reality, they are a reality that is in itself connected and separate from you conscious waking experience, there are also those of you actively have second or third roles in your dream state that are on other planes of consciousness. Non physical which you are then able to bring back to your waking state, in smaller or larger doses.

Have we answered the second part of the question ? or would you like to repeat it ?

Q: No that was perfect, thank you so much.
V: Thank you [19:23 19:23]

Host: Ok Corie, you can proceed. You should have an unmute request, There you go.

Q: Yes, Hello can you hear me. So I am speaking to Vagrein. Is that how you say it.

V: You may say it however you like.

Q: Ok.

Q02: [Corie] So the question that I came with is about where I am physically located right now, I feel that it does not serve my highers souls evolution in why I came to this planet and I have been encountering some intensity and I have gone through some intensity, recently and I feel that I am coming to a certain point. My heart is racing right now. I've also, I would like to add this is possible, I have also been experiencing a sense of strangeness with my interactions with others and feeling overwhelmed, sensory and a full body and entirely like in my full expression of my being, do you have something that you can offer me in what I have shared. Especially about where I am located physically on the planet right now and not feeling that it's serves me in my fullest.

V: Yes, in terms of your location, it is and has been serving you to its fullest, or you would not be where you are located, however this does not mean that you may choose to be in some other location if it is what you are now coming to understand we would prefer in your experience. It is not that in some other location you will suddenly or even gradually have the ability to be more of your highest version for you are always the highest version that you can access irrregardless of circumstances because there is only the now and the here, therefore your location is not what is influencing your belief that this the case that it is not the highest for you, again this does not mean that you are not to change your location or to suffer or to continue in a situation or path that does not serve you because you have some other preference but it is not that it does not serve you, because you cannot be your highest version, you absolutely can and always are your highest version no matter where you are, what you believe or what you think about where you are so.

So if you find you are not where you want to be, you do not need the permission from anyone or anything or any teacher, mentor, entity, what have you, for you to decide for yourself that it is not what you are wanting. Therefore, we support you and you support you, in making the choices to change your location if that is something that is calling to you do not however change your location because you are afraid that remaining in that location would have some detriment to your life's path, this is not the case, in as such change the location based upon any form of fear will only lead you to the catalyst required for you to then dismantle that fear within yourself, does this make sense ?

Q: yes.

V: In terms of your second query, there are energies arriving at your planet, or on your planet or within your collective field at this time that are of a simultaneously higher and more dense frequency than what you are accustomed to, at the same time there is a thinning of the veil of unconsciousness, that has been on your planet you have been interested, involved in your own spiritual path for sometime and in practicing towards this particular event or transformation your body and the fact that you are more sensory aware and feeling overwhelmed by what would be, or seem to be sensory but is also in part intellectual and emotional reaction to catalyst, the reason why you feel this overwhelming is yes there is more of it and it is only overwhelming in that you are acclimatizing yourself to these more frequent and higher and simultaneously denser stimuli, the way to come out of this overwhelmed feeling is to no longer label it as overwhelming take each moment as it comes know that you are safe in whatever it is that is coming at you and that you are feeling and that the next moment there may be relief or not but in this particular moment you are here, you are surviving, and you are perfectly capable or continuing to do so. You will not be knocked over by these sensations, by these emotions, and by what is coming at you at this time for it is in many ways, what you have been preparing for. Overwhelm can only happen if you are projecting into the future that you will not be able to manage what is coming, you have an example of what is in front of you, at this time,the sensation for example or as you said your heart is racing, the only reason why a racing heart would cause overwhelmness as an example of one of these sensations, is because if you have some fear if it continues to race or races faster and faster and faster, this may mean some harm to your physical vessel.

This is not the case, you are sensing what many are sensing, many try to find relief, from the sensations from these new what they would call potentially anxieties, or discomforts or panics, or fears or exuberance, if you would like to choose a more positive adjective, they are turning to expressing externally in ways that they believe will bring them some relief. There will be no external expression that will bring relief that is a natural progression of a ball that you have all put in motion together in perhaps your first act of unity. But there will be an internal understanding and acceptance of these changes, All this is to say simply that you'd need not be too concerned with what is happening at this time for you. We can suggest that you find yourself some systems to perhaps limit stimulus, as you adjust to it, headphones can be useful for this as there is much auditory distortion at this time. Being very careful about what you ingest mentally, in that you must consider your exposure to information in the same way that you consider your diet physically what you ingest needs to then be digested, by your system so taking a step away from any and all information that causes these specific sensations is a route that you may consider and allowing yourself more periods of silence, solitude, for these periods you will notice and remember that you are well in this moment and this sense of overwhelm will be more manageable, the next time it appears.

In terms of your interaction with others and the oddness that you are sensing, it is a time where interactions can seems odd, it is because all of your realities are simultaneously the truth and because although you believe that you have chosen different realities, the one that you have chosen in unison was that everything be manifest. Therefore projections that are placed upon you in the perspective of the other-self that is in front of you, are in their reality 100% true, then when they come to talk with you, they are actually talking with another version of you, but you are holding the space in the same timeline, or same timelines, that perhaps confuses you because the experience was not as you had it with this other-self for you are on another version of reality where whatever it is that is causing this oddness is plainly not true. It's like all of you are walking this earth right now and every single one of you is 100% right about absolutely everything they believe. So imagine the confusion when everyone around you says that you are wrong. It is quite interesting.

Hang in there, as the energies continue and dissipate and become more habitual for you. Back to that same habitual nature of suffering that we spoke of earlier, you will drop these habits of choosing to suffer and readopt your natural state of wonder, awe, reverence, joy,
celebration as this happens to more and more of you this will be the new collective energy frequency and your reality will begin to reflect that. So for each of you it is simply your job, role, mission, purpose to be here, feel what it is that you are feeling, allow yourself to process it, allow yourself to breathe through it and on the other end find your own joy, curiosity, celebration, awe, reverence, for your own individuated experience. and if that is the only work that you do in your entire life, then your entire life will have had the most profound of meanings, for it is a large bucket and each of you is a drop but eventually the bucket will be filled with that energy, and when it does it will tip over, and spill on your entire planet, civilization, and all who are bathed in it will benefit. [33:41 33:41]

We feel there may be some other element that you would like to inquire on.

Q03: Yes, thank you. Can I inquire on two, do we have time for that ? The first is a followup question, regarding interactions with others and a confirmation sort of of what you shared, so, regarding other realities or how we are all in a way, in our own timeline, experience our own reality while we are simultaneously interacting, you said something along the lines of, their reality of me, is being reflected, like I am seeing that version, of myself from them - so that is there is some confusion, I am experiencing, I am aware of in my field right now, around it, that a so. I hope I am not making this confusing. The reason why I am asking this is because the experience inside that I've been having which had felt quite intense that my soul is being, is like dying and being crushed. Uhm, Through relating to others in my area and not yes, I will leave it at that. Relating to others in my area. So to be honest I found some relief in hearing that, but I would like to confirm what was meant, Is this clear ?

V: yes
Q: Thank you.

V: [35:26 35:26] Your soul cannot be crushed by any experience that you have of course, we know that you know this, we just want to mention it again. You are not interacting with other-selves in the way that you believe yourself to be interacting with them, there is no reality beyond your perception of reality, and because of a what we will call shift in your collective desire, what has occurred is that the realities of all of what you would consider separate perspectives have become available to you simultaneously, this is why you are seeing so much conflict on political levels for example, because on a broader level everyone is correct, and suddenly you are able to see not how they are correct perhaps, but they they believe themselves to be correct in a way that you haven't been able to see in the past, in the past you had conflict on a smaller level because someone who cared enough about you to explain their point of view to you spent the time with you to explain their point of view, but that was only ever delivered to you by your perception of it, now it's as if your perception has expanded to then be able to see their point of view, as well. so back to the reference of people that you are interacting with what is happening to you in terms of why it is so painful emotionally, is because you are seeing their perspective of you, so yes in a way it is being mirrored back to you, but it is no longer a question of something simply being mirrored, it is mirrored and also presenting with you a completely different, potentially, version of yourself, so if you are a sensitive being, and you are, and you take on each and every one of these mirrors, as what could be reality because you do not have a solid perception of who you truly are, then suddenly you are in a carnival fun house of mirrors and what you can see in some of these mirrors is grotesque and if you have enough mirrors that are reflecting enough distorted messages back at you because that is your perception of you, then eventually you may run the risk of adopting these perceptions of you as your own perception. This is also what is happening on a collective level. If enough distorted perceptions are allowed into your field and you do not know yourself truly and you do not know that you are coming from love and you do not know that you are coming from compassion and you do not know that you are coming from integrity it is possible to begin to believe things about yourself and this world that you would not believe normally. The location that you are based in will not alleviate this problem, if you were to change location, the only actual way to alleviate this problem is to spend enough time with yourself that you understand and know yourself so deeply and have such a deep confidence in the face of any interaction that nothing than anyone could possibly say to or about you could distort your own inner image of yourself. It is as if you carry around a snapshot of yourself when you looked your most beautiful to reference when all of the mirrors are completely out of whack.

There should be, or we are hoping that there is some relief in what we have talked about at this time, we see what is occurring for you and we remind you that it is occurring for the most benevolent and loving of reasons, because there is something on the other side of this challenge or predicament that is more of who you would like to be. [40:18 40:18]

Q: Can you sense the dire intensity that I have been experiencing ?

V: Yes, through your heart. You can hold yourself. You are safe with yourself there is a universe of beings who love you and you are also allowed to put down these topics and situations. You do not have to fight to resolve them. You are free to simply decide that you would like something different. [41:10 41:10]

Q: [ Crying] I'm feeling like I am being eaten alive and I don't know how to be with myself and this doesn't feel like truly me and it's incredibly painful.

V: We know, we can only suggest you take some time away from this situation and be with yourself, you know this is not who your truly are because you do have some inkling or connection or knowing too, that being who is there, for you and you are forgiven. You can simply let this go. Let the other-selves that you have been learning so much from and with you are free to end if not temporarily contact or relationship you are free to leave problems unresolved, if temporarily, at least until you feel that you are yourself again.

Q: Can I say one more thing.

V: Yes.

Q: I've been feeling that I don't know how to leave and give myself that.

V: That is ok, because you as yourself the being that you believe you do not have the access to, does know how to do it, and

Q: Are you saying. Sorry.

V: and in fact believe it or not the pain that you are feeling, and the messages that you are getting are in fact yourself telling you what to do, or telling you what you need, so your negative feelings, are your higher self telling you what you are thinking about the circumstances simply isn't true and when you think to yourself, I don't know how to meet myself, immediately your emotions kick in and tell you that is simply not the case. It is simply not the case. What if you began to lie to yourself of pretended to lie to yourself in that every-time you voiced a sentence or thought a thought that was making you feel a bad feeling, you immediately chose to think the opposite thought.

For example: I do not know how to meet myself. - I do know how to meet myself.
Which of these feels better ?

Q: I do know how to meet myself .

V: Exactly it is your higher self calling to you to saying yes, come this way, a little bit further this way, a little bit further this way and they are absolutely benevolent, every-time you go in the other direction, you will get that stab you are going in the wrong direction, this is what emotions are for many of you and you are safe, you are safe to feel your emotions you are safe to continue to feel like you are being eaten because you are not and because if that feeling is present for you, it is because you are learning from it in a beautiful and benevolent way. If you believe that you are being eaten simply get up and walk away from the table. [45:02 45:02] We will leave you to ponder that at this time and see if there are any other questions.

Host: Yes there is another question, Sofia, if you can unmute yourself.

Q04: Hi
V: Hello

Q04: [Sofia] Yes I just wanted to know if karma was based on intention only. I don't know if you get what I mean.

V: Well it would depend what you meant by Karma.

Q: If like, if you do a bad action but you are not aware that you are doing that in a mean conscious way. if that comes back to you, you know if you do something in a past life like if that comes back to you in a way in the current life.

V: Yes we see.

So the concept of karma, was a teaching or is a teaching that is proposed to humans based upon truth but it is interpreted and described with words that at times can cause confusion. Everything in your human existence, is placed in front of you for learning that you are choosing through your souls evolutionary path.Your souls evolutionary path is not limited to one incarnation and so what you are talking in terms of past lives, which we have explained in the past, are not necessarily past but sometimes contemporary and simultaneous but for the facilitation of the explanation that we are about to give we will lie with the explanation that that there are indeed past lives we will part with that partially erroneous[ presupposition [47:24 47:24] ( pronouncing correction on audio here)]

As your soul comes into an incarnation it is in theory if there is linear time coming from a space where it has certain things that it wants to learn, master or experience in order to reach certain goals of its souls evolution. What you are calling karma plays into this in that IF in a past life one has taken actions for example, harming another self, when they have the evaluation period in between, and again we are talking on a level that is respecting the linear idea, of time, they will perhaps realize that the harm that they caused to another self was not necessarily in their souls evolutionary path the highest choice.
They may then choose, to have the evolutionary path that is the opposite of that experience, in order to balance out what their learning would be therefore they will have been the carnifice and the victim of the same action in order to have the experience of both sides and often this is literally the same to other-selves, you will incarnate as literally the other person that you have in front of you in what you would then call a past or previous life simply to play out the scene again with separate roles but your question was whether or not non intentional acts can be considered towards these then chosen lessons of karma and we would say yes, unintentional acts also contribute to what you would then choose to balance out what you are calling karma, because there are truly no unintentional acts there cannot be, it is all along the same path there are unconscious acts. There are acts that you in your current awareness of the all that you are your limited perception are not conscious that you are for example harming billions of people on the other side of the planet with your choices of toothpaste. You are not perhaps conscious of the ultimate resting place of your old washing machine, and the impact that that has on every being that walks past it for example. But with what you are calling karma, what ends up happening is at some point you are the one of billions of other people who are experiencing a certain lifes path because they are creating toothpaste, or walking past the washing machine.


The good news is none of this is consequential because when you are that other self you will not know that you had ever been this one, it is only your higher self of souls journey that is accumulating and keeping score of the lessons you are choosing to learn and your higher self or inner being or however you want to label that aspect of your individuation or consciousness does not get affected by any of it in reality. There is no suffering on that level. So no you do not have [quote unquote] 'permission' to go out an murder a hundred people and not live with the consequences or die or exist with the consequences of the action, but if it is what is on your list of learning categories for your souls evolution then it will occur. We see how often the concept of karma has been distorted it is a spiritual concept that many of you have tried to adopt as a human concept the teachers that proposed it were teaching to a fear based subject group therefore threatening them with the potential of suffering in future lifelines, seems like a positive concept, and it was the way in which it was taught, however, it is a beautiful thing to be able to experience and live both sides of any circumstance. It is a beautiful thing to be able to right your wrongs so to speak on an energetic level and eventually when your soul is coming to maturation of it's soul journey there will be less karmatic impact, more consciousness and awareness, but you cannot be free of this desire to keep learning.

We hope that that has satisfied your query.

Q: Thank you yes, I appreciate it. [54:05 54:05]
V: Thank you.

Host: Those are all the questions at this time. I don't know if we can wait temporarily for another or will we end in this time.

V: If one more question arises in this now we are available if not we will release the vessel.

Host: Gabrielle has another one, Gabrielle you can go ahead. Just waiting for her to unmute. You got it.

Q: Ok I am sorry.

Q05: Based on what you were saying about the soul wanting to experience itself as the person who inflicts harm as well as coming back and experiencing the victims point of view. It brought up the question for me is in that case, every person on this planet is it just one soul, one consciousness experiencing all these different lives interacting with itself at the same time.

V: yes.

Q: throughout all time.

V: yes

Q: And so that's the whole oneness thing ?

V: yes.

Q: And is it a different consciousness, are you a different consciousness than all of us ? on the planet.

V: No. On this level there is only consciousness, experiencing itself in every different facet attempting to experience itself in every possible reality, every possible individuation, every possible molecule, atom, this is why no matter what you do you are affecting yourself sooner or later you will be the thing that you are affecting, holding this idea is a convenient way to understand oneness. It is all you. Always. Understanding it in an incarnation may or may not have benefits however at this point in time it is the incarnation that you chose to be having this conversation. You are also us delivering this message because you could not be hearing it if you were not. This is what oneness is, it can be explained in so many different ways, but we do believe that this is one of the ways in which you can understand it.

Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you. [57:43 57:43]

We feel that we could not have invented a better greeting to leave you with. For this evening, we thoroughly enjoyed spending time with you, we want you all to know that you are held in that oneness. Ultimately, your higher beings are unaffected and your higher being, The Grand One, is simply Love. Loving you for everything you do, every move you make, you are so so held. Ananai. [58:59 58:59]

Host: Thank you, we love you.

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