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24-07-2020 Private Session
V: Welcome, it is our pleasure to meet with you at this time.
Q: Thank you it's great to meet with you too.
V: We have deep curiosity as to the topics and instincts that brought you to discuss with us, we have some energetic representation and would like to check in with you as to what is in your heart.
Q: Before we joined today, I had that hope too that somethings I don't have the words to express, or even questions, yet I have felt my heart wanting to spend time one on one so to speak. It's very interesting because although I know I have the answers, to the questions, the questions are how to form the discussion, so even asking sometimes I know that I do or should or am working through the answer, yet that is the way to communicate, at least in this form at this time, for me in a verbal sense. And also for the purpose of the recording and how it may be used. Does that make sense ?
V: Yes allow yourself whatever permission slip you need, to access the aspects of yourself that you would like to have access at this time.
Q: Thank you. So I think I have attention on this one thing because I am wondering if it would shape the rest of the discussion, ah, I have been spending some time, I am doing a course on the gene keys and spending some time looking at my human design profile and I know my curiosity, is you know, it's like a game, it's like a metaphor, or whatever and can we discuss this to some degree or is it just to be left where it is. Outside of this
V: There is nothing that we cannot discuss.
Q: Ok. Thank you.
Q01: I think the gene keys, I'm with that, I don't have any immediate question, at least at this time in the discussion today, on that, I think that path I am walking feels clear, with the human design, I am a projector, and the whole waiting for the invitation I can see throughout the theme of my blueprint and I feel somewhat some confusion in many aspects, because we talked, you and I talked, before in the past, about like for example me making money, and I received everything in our conversation, on that, and I am like how do I wait for invitation and also look for a job, and then realizing throughout life, the jobs that I have had that I liked, came to me by little effort or even just by word of mouth or you know it wasn't a long arduous applying process [10:25 10:25] so I'm trying to obtain more clarity on that, I am very long winded, I apologize.
V: We forgive you.
Q: I think that whole, it's part of the discussion, I am seeing the completeness of things right now but I am also feeling some confusion or wondering if emotions I am feeling are actually mine or collective, and it all sort of is a little bit about the human design part, of me having open centers, and waiting for invitations an what not, so if you can share any pointers or anything in that way, that would be awesome.
V: Yes, first we may address what we feel [11:36 11:36] is your attempt to understand these systems via the direct means and a logical mind, which due to the nature of language and it's limitations cannot lead you, to the understanding that would land specifically for you. An example of this would be the word invitation, which for you has certain meaning, and for another would have another. Our suggestion therefore, is to as you navigate these systems that you have put in place, to allow you to expand in understanding more of who it is you are, as an individuation, to access the information not on a literal or verbal level, but more so on a feeling, or intuitive level.
Q: uh huh
V: So that words such as invitation can then expand to their many meanings and not only your personal meanings and cover the actual essence of what is that is being described, for in your case, this particular word or aspect that is being described to you, is not that one much wait for a formal invitation, but in your case you must wait for an energetic invitation, or the recognition of your skills and/or value before interacting. It essentially means that you do not need to show another self your skills and value, it it up to them to recognize it. There are other beings, who do need to present themselves and show themselves, so they can then interact in the...
We apologize that we are not finding the word that we would like to use. But the closest word unfortunately is
smorgasbord of human interactions
Q: [Laughter]
V: As you said, the times that you have had 'work' engagements that have been satisfying, the came in easy manner, or as you said, via word of mouth etc, this is because the beings who knew that you would be of service to them, sought you out and not the other way around.
Q: uh huh
V: Because of your nature, and that it is not the most common nature, you have allowed yourself to believe that you must reach out and show others what you are capable of, show others that you are valuable, it is not necessary, and only what is correct for you, or right for you will arrive via you sitting back and allowing those who recognize your talents to come to you. This is what your system means by waiting for an invitation.
In regards to the details, about open and closed centers, all of these details, of the systems, you are able to continue exploring with the system, remembering that of course, it is not ultimate, it is simply an example or an approximation or the equivalent of a cave drawing, on the wall, as a representation of what all of consciousness is, it may be beautiful, it may explain history to you, in some manner, but only you have access to the entire picture of what it is trying to describe, you are the ultimate authority on who you are and no system can in the end, explain that but remember as well, if the system exists in your reality, it is you who has created it. [17:45 17:45]
Q: Thank you
V: Thank you
Q: I think that has answered my question on those things. One sub aspect of that is, my concern seems to be somewhat that my husband wants me to have financial exchange for what I do, so what we were speaking about already I think you had to understanding that was part of my intention when I say 'work' or whatever, did that go across ?
V: Yes,
Q: ok
V: You had asked the question of whether or not or how one can find work if one is waiting for the invitation.
Q: yeah, I just didn't know if I, if the financial part was part of the 'work' as I was saying.
V: yes,
Q: ok, great... alright
V: [18:50 18:50] One must put themselves in a position where they know that only what is correct for them is arriving, through this energetic invitation. A invitation can likewise be the advertisement for a position that you could fill in a newspaper, for example. That is an invitation to come and meet and that would be correct for you. However, going door to door and leaving your resume, perhaps would not be.
Q02: Yeah, That was one of my other questions, over the last five or six years that I haven't worked, I have quite a reluctance that I am feeling. I am just wondering is that a resistance because I do not want to work, or is it like past pain, it just, I am not sure of how it feels. I know it feels much healthier now I'm not in the environments, but I don't know, I know when I look through job ads or whatever I feel a lot of resistance and reluctance and I am not sure if it's a, I am not sure exactly what it is, but if you could point me there for clarity it would be great.
V: Yes, it can be a mixture. It is possible that you have resistance because of past experiences, it is also possible that you have resistance because you simply prefer not to live that lifestyle.
Q: And that confirms exactly how I have been interpreting it myself, thank you.
V: Yes.
Q: Yes that feels complete on those questions, thank you.
So I have
V:[21:02 21:02] [We want to remind you <- not audible 21:05 21:05] that nothing can arrive that is not wanted, and therefore nothing that is not wanted will arrive.
Q: Ok. Thank you and I realise that I am in a different place than when I last worked too so I am calling in completely different things. ha ha
V: Yes, and 'work', we were to discuss this word specifically, as when we used it earlier, we realised it was not the correct word, we would have replaced it with endeavor, however it is did not seem at that time to be the case, to speak that word, but now since it has come up, we will discuss the word 'work' more carefully.
The implications around this word, are as you can feel within yourself, very turbulent and very attached to ones sense of value, there is a difference however between what it called work and monetary exchange, you are in a position, that you can find creative ways to arrange yourself that there is financial income without having to be in similar roles that you had been in the past. So perhaps it is not a case of needing to find a job it is a case of needing to invent an endeavor.
Q: uhuh and I understand that and when I have looked at coaching before and what not, and that same resistance that we spoke of, and that same resistance, I am calling it resistance because I don't know what to call it, I just feel a stop of some sort
V: yes
Q: and so I am just wondering is there a ridge there, is it that the timing has changed, that I am curious about it again. Or possibly, we have talked about moving and then then our rental income will increase, so is it the conversations with my husband that is bring it up right now, or is there a
V: Yes.
Q: Does it approach feel....
V: We would ask you the same question. Do you feel that this desire is coming from within you ?
Q: It feels that coming from within me is that it is the time for me to shift. And that's the only detail that I have. Like I am very fullfilled with everything that I do with Jessie, you know that feels wonderful, so I am aware of exchange and the flow always feels really good, the financial part, I feel the timing, I need to fulfill that in the sense of you know, for my husband, in our family kind of situation so we can do more, as a tool. Yet the how to make it happen, whether it be art or something else, or coaching or something, that is the part that is a mystery to me, and I don't know, it doesn't feel like fear, it just feels like a uncertainty, and uncertainty could be of any piece of it and so it does feel like there is something for me to either breakthrough or open a door, or something, so timing and recognition of that timing feels the most accurate. I don't know if it's shyness, or reluctance or I don't have a word for it really. It could be the new ground. You know I just, its something that I have never been in before and it's.
V: Are you willing to take a step in that direction without knowing what that direction is ?
Q: Yes, I feel I am quite willing, but it's very mysterious as to how that would happen.
V: It would happen through you, not of you.
Q: Pardon me.
V: It would occur or happen through you not of you.
So simply we would suggest getting your mind out of the way.
Q:ok
V: Or in the moments that you are mind does get in the way, focus your attention on dismantling the beliefs that are there, perhaps fear, perhaps influence from other selves, focus more on not which direction should I go, but what is stopping me from allowing the direction to take itself.
Q: ok
V: For that is what you do have to control over, you can very easily tell what it is blocking you because your emotions will tell you what is feeling incorrect and the moment they do you have the opportunity to look at those beliefs. So if the emotion says, 'I must get a job' because I have this, this and this, and that emotion feels bad, then you can look at the factors in that statement that may not be true. And you will eventually find the one that is not. So, I must get a job because of this, this and this, has many assumptions within it, must according to what and who ? What happens if one does not ? What are those this, this and this actually worth ? Are they worth your time, or your energy or your happiness.
You have decisions to make. When you have a statement that brings resistance. You have things that you can focus upon, and work through and let go of, it does not mean that you will not choose to get a job at the end of this process, you may still choose to do whatever it is that you have then worked through, but with a deeper understanding of what it was that was bothering you about it. You may choose for the next 6 months take a specific job that appears on your horizon, that pays a large sum of money, because you do know that that will be in your benefit 6 months time from now when you are in another position where you can be something that you would like to do more concretely or in the time between you now and you waiting for that amazing new thing to come through you.
Q: uh huh
V: So there are no rules.
Q: uh huh, it just feels like I've reached a timing of some change or whatever I guess, so even in this discussion, it just feels like I am in a different place than I have been for the last 4 or 6 years.
V: That's wonderful. You get to choose what is next.
Q: Ok Thank you.
V: Thank you. [29:27 29:27]
Q03: So maybe a subsection of the same discussion is.
We have discussions before where you have said to me that I have I life of ease and I am not seeing it, and I think through contemplation and whatever I am seeing more of it now and I am just wondering that I still seems to have some sort of holding ground that it will reach a certain point of comfort, but not expand and I am wondering is that just a waiting thing, or feeling that this is the value I have or this is what I deserve, yet I know that there is so much more, so it feels almost like a, I am going to say a bubble of a holding place, and I feel like that is the shift right now too. Probably relative to everything we just said.
V: Yes
Q: So, I am not sure if there is a question or but is there any pointer or clarity on that or maybe we have already discussed it, I am not sure.
V: Yes, so you arrive to a place, where there is comfort and joy and you know that just beyond this place there is more joy perhaps but you are not entirely sure about what you would have to sacrifice or give up in order to become that next version. You are not entirely sure that the comfort that you feel now will carry forward into that next version.
This is simply because you have not been in that next version yet, and you are projecting your ideas from this version until that, however, this version does not know and cannot know, and is not in a yet in a place to make any sort of predictions on what is coming next. If you were to awake tomorrow and all your dreams, your most outlandish dreams, will have come true, what is your immediate fear ?
Q: It's about forgetting something. It doesn't make sense, forgetting who I am.
V: Well that would be who you are. But if this is your immediate fear, then it is pointing to an attachment to identity.
Q:Ok.
V: You have a belief that you will no longer be able to be you, if you are the next version of you.
Q: ok.
V: Your identity however is changing at all times, the only thing that remains the same is your essence, or your beingness, or the consciousness that passes through you as an individuation. Which has no identity and is not even yours, so it is safe to let go of who you believe yourself to be and we know that in many of your teachings this is called a death, we do not use this term for it is not, it is a birth. It is not the death of the ego for that is simply another term that would want to make one hold on even tighter. You do not have to die, you have to live.
And there is no rush, we remind you, but we suggest, brainstorming what is this next version of you what is the circumstances of their life.
What do they look like ?
Where to they live ?
What do they eat ?
Who do they spend their time with ?
What do they do all day ?
And then as you have this blueprint in front of you, see where the discomfort arises, see where it is that you think that for you. you think that dream is not ok.
Q: uh huh
V: It is these that are your blocks, it is this that is creating your bubble and you can one by one approach each and every one of these blocks and pop or erase them and as you do, there is nothing actually to do, because the expansion will happen on it's own.
You are remaining in the space that you are in because it is safe to, only because you do not believe it is safe to expand, this is the only reason why there is a [ relentment ? <-word] 36:09 36:09] in expansion. Because until it is safe, both you and your higher self will not allow you to pass through that threshold, it is not the best thing for you, the best thing for you right now is to learn that you are safe to be who you want to be and that is your expansion.
Q: Yes, Thank you.
V: Thank you. [36:39 26:39]
Q04: I was going to ask you about, like the stuff with my body too and my moving forward with that and it's the same, I feel like I am right on the edge of a big change. So, it may be related, so I looked a lot at the self sabotage thing and my frustration and low energy and when it comes and why I may be motivated but still not actually do the work, so I think that may be sort of the same thing
V: We apologize if we gave the impression that this is a case of self sabotage, what we meant perhaps in past meetings was not that is a saboteur but that the part of you that is preventing these changes from happening is doing so out of certain beliefs that are no longer serving. We do not want you to have the impression that there is a part of you that is not in it's entirety working in your service. Even if it is not in conjunction at this moment in time with the more conscious parts of you that you are believing want to make the change wholeheartedly. All of the aspects of you need to be included for the change to be successful. And this aspect that prevents you from making concrete change, is doing so only out of confusion. It is the aspect that needs to be sat down and explained to why the changes are in benefit of the whole of you.
Q: That may have been my own misunderstanding on what you said, or I did not quite get clear from that time, so I am not sure it was your actual words.
V: That is fine.
Q: It feels to me that I am uncertain about something you just said.
V: yes.
Q: I am not sure of course what that is.
V: Perhaps we go back to an example that we believe that we have given in the past or something similar, perhaps you decide to implement, a new diet, and at some point there is a part of you that does not want to implement that, or knows that it is the case that you should eat certain things, or have chosen to eat certain things and it decides to eat others instead. And then you have a cycle of - I should have known better and guilt etc. This part of you that believes that you are not worthy of the change, is simply protecting you, from what it believes could be negative for you, not the food in itself, but the change. So yes it is related to the question of the next level.
There is some aspect of it that believes that if you body type was different you would be required by existence to do things, or sacrifice things that you do not want to, there is a part of you that believes that if you were 100 % healthy there would be different expectations of you or that you would be at risk somehow of your relationships changing.
This is a custodian of the ways things are currently, because you are here currently and it is a guarantee that this is working. Now, it is not working at it's optimum and you have acknowledged that, and you are aware of changes that you would like to be making, so the negotiation needs to begin. [42:05 42:05] with the part of you that makes the other choices, with love and respect, but also explaining to it that these new choices are not going to put you in the danger that it has assumed you will be put in if you make them.
Q: uh hmm. I understand thank you.
V: Thank you.
Q:I so appreciate your patience with me in this.
I had a question at the end of the last session in the public session, about what the frustration I feel now in the collective, and I am just wondering should I ask that now or because I am wondering if it's better in the private session or should we wait for the next public one.
V: If it has come up then you may ask.
Q05: [43:23 43:23] Ok so I am just feeling for more than weeks now, quite some time a collective frustration with the whole guru thing and someone telling somebody else what to do and I realize this is personal to me as well. And that directing others, and tell them that this is what you should do, a, b, c, d ,e or whatever. I mean me call my calling or blueprint 'People knowing that they have all the help they need within - Infinite Intelligence.' and it just hurts my heart to see people say, oh well what do I need to do. to purify myself', 'what do I need to do so I will be fine through this collective change', 'whatever it doesn't really matter' but the frustration and anger I feel with it is very intense, so it, I find I am not active, I don't get in the discussion unless it's one on one with a dear friend. Ah but it's really, its bothering me to see this persist right now. So I don't know if there is something that you can share on that. and I realize this too is for myself and even in our discussion I am asking you for help so I see the paradox, [laughter], but it's something that just keeps coming up. Especially the last 6 months.
V: We have two responses.
Q: ok.
V: The first is that the emotional response or the emotional highlight that you are sensing in these topics is [45:24 45:24] entirely yours and an opportunity for you to look at something that is clearly wanting to be looked at at this point we would ask you what the opposite to the anger would be ?
Q: ok
V: That is the more accurate expression of your true being on this topic and we believe that the opposite of anger is in this case, acceptance and understanding, that each has it's own path, and that the path for each is perfect as it is. That each will learn what they need to learn from the experiences that they have in the same way that you have learnt from the experiences that you have had and there is no way to usurp or take ownership of anothers suffering through your own suffering, allow them their path.
The other aspect that we would like to answer to this is that each being is always creating all it is that they can perceive, those of you who choose to create something external of you that you can see, that you then believe to be a source of answers or information, much in the way we are playing this game currently. Are in fact the creators of that being that they have in their perception, they are themselves creating the words that exit the mouth, of that being and they are only following their own orders when they are choosing to become a follower of what you have called a guru or a leader in this case. You as a witness to this expression potentially from what you see as an external perspective to it, are not only creating the guru, but also the follower, and you own tension about this dynamic, so you are creating the one who claims to have the answers, and the one who claims to have none of the answers, and you from a third point of the triangle are watching this believing that neither are of your creation, when they both are this is you playing the game in this particular way to be able to resolve certain things within you that you could not resolve if you did not have this display in front of your eyes.
Which is what the anger is tying to tell you, it is trying to tell you that all is equal the teacher and the student and for you then to with this realization which you already have, rise above it to have access to that universal knowledge that you know yourself to have, no matter the source of it because you a knowledge that all of it is the one source, so it no longer matters if you are a follower or a leader, because all that you can perceive in creation is coming from that one source, it is irrelevant who speaks it, it is irrelevant how it is delivered, the only thing that is relevant, is that it is true and the only one to whom it could be true, is you.
Now we have just delivered this speech, however if it can even arrive in your consciousness or in your perception it is only you who has created the words, your reaction to them will tell you whether or not you decide to create them again
Q: uh huh. Thank you
V: Thank you.
V: Thank you for being this [stance, dance <-word 50:50 50:50] of creation with us, for we would not exist without you, As you would not exist without every other perception of you, and in fact do not. When you understand that your point of perspective truly is all-that -is and that all is one, you must simultaneously also understand that you are 'the one' and that is your own creation, there is a beauty in this, there is the beauty in this.
Q: There is and then there is also the different pieces of the human experience interaction of it, and I think
V: Yes, and you must honor those.
Q: Yeah, and I think that is on a day to day almost everything we talked about today, not only this, is what I am experiencing is in, lets say the zooming out and then the moving into the human emotion, and the exploration of it and the being in the actual experiences and the different experiences at one.
Y: Yes
Q: Especially in this highly accelerated changing time, in the beginning you said you were curious about my explorations, I don't remember exactly the words and I am sharing this as I speak now to just say from my perspective, that it's almost a dancing of each aspect at once
Y: Yes
Q: and being all characters, yet it can feel on the emotional human side, such a confusion is not the right word, but it's the closest one I have right now, of the difference between my personal emotion, the collective emotion and ah looking at the gifts of that and separating what may be in the mind and in the action, and the interaction with other-selves, such as my children and my husband, it's quite a - I don't have a word for it. But it feels oftentimes that it is an integrating and at the same time you can meander into one aspect as so deeply you do not see the others in the second.
V: We enjoy the word you chose, integrating. We would say you are are already integral and so this experience may better be described as disintegrating, for it is your mind and your beliefs on how things are or should be, that is dissolving as you become or understand that you always were and are multidimentional and relaxing into this at this time and a relaxing also into the human experience because from the perspective of knowing that one is multidimentional it no longer matters quite so much, there isn't so much importance given to the human experience and without that level of importance one is finally able to actually enjoy it.
Q: Yes I agree
V: [You ? 55:19 ] did not come here to struggle, you came her for this experience, because it is 100% enjoyable, if you allow it to be.
There is nothing wrong, everything is always perfect, you are creating all you see, to challenge you into the growth that you wanted to have, it is all a game and it is very important to you as a game, but it is still a game.
Q: Yes,
V: Just because a game is a game it does not mean you will decide to never play it, in fact you play it because it is enjoyable so. If you had forgotten temporarily you were playing a game and suddenly you remembered you were you would not throw away the bat and the ball - whoops !
Q: [Laughter]
V: You would continue to play, and finally go wow, it really does not matter if I win or lose because this is just a game, now I may enjoy it and really give it my all. And beyond that, it is your game, and beyond that there isn't even a you, you can keep zooming into that and zooming out infinitely, because it truly is infinite.
Q: yeah
V: But you do not have to to play this game, it is not an requirement.
Q: Thank you for that, and so much more. I am loving this discussion.
V: It is beautiful
We would love to hear one more question or query before we release the vessel.
Q06: [57:39 57:39] I have sort of an odd question but it keeps coming up.
I may have asked you before but I never remember if I have. When I was involved in Scientology there was a question about what I was ? Or what I did really ? and my answer was that I was a programmer and it was acknowledged as correct and I have always had attention on it and I am wondering was that in fact the case and my concern is did I do anything to hurt another or others.
V: All of this would depend on what significance or meaning that you were giving to the word 'programmer', would you like to ?
Q: That's the thing, at the time I had no idea what it meant. It did feel to me as I remember in that now, it felt to me - I will just give the words, manipulative, game, intention, process. That was the only thing I could see at the time. But I did not know if it was beneficial or detrimental.
V: You have assigned a negative connotation to it, based upon the words you are using in your questions, first we will address, the word programmer, although we do not believe that it is related in the way that you are imagining it, but we will simply give you the possibility of re frame, should you choose to continue to identify with this past story.
If life is a game, is not the programmer the one who has chosen how to set up the game.
If you are by nature a programmer, then you are capable of seeing through the code, making alterations to make the game flow in a way that is more pleasing to you. This is a skill.
The second part of your question was if you had in fact inadvertently or accidentally hurt someone, through your nature or actions. We will remind you that through each, whom you have a soul contract, there are aspects that are predetermined, and if you had hurt someone or what you call hurt someone, the reasons for that in your past, whether through ignorance or your own wounding, were because in that soul contract it was necessary. Now is complete, if it was the case, it is only you who can determine if it was the case. For we will not speak to that, but in this now, part of that contract may have been for you to be in a position where you are now conscious enough about your actions, that you do not take action in that way anymore, therefore the very act of learning, that you no longer want to take erroneous action or action that leaves you believing you have hurt someone, which is not in itself erroneous,but to you in this perception it is, is the resolution of the action that has taken place. So if it required you hurting someone else to learn that you do not ever want to hurt someone else again, then that action and the consequences of it were beneficial. You may let them go, because guilt does not serve, and is impeding you from actually living as the new version of yourself who is not longer tired karmically or energetically, to potential past occurrences.
Q: Thank you,
V: Thank you.
V: [1:03:38 1:03:38 We take this opportunity to remind you are always forgiven, for you are a player in this grand scheme, without you and everything that you have been so far and everything that you will be the universe would not be exactly as it is, it would not be able to function exactly as it is. You are forgiven because your actions were and are approved. Or could not be, this does not give permission for negative behavior, simply for the desire for negative behavior, however there truly is no negative behavior.
We have faith in humanity, we have faith that you will understand your oneness, and as you will not run rampant as you have been. And part of understanding the oneness, is that everything is held within it. So in the same way that you are forgiven all must be forgiven, all must be held and the alignment with these principles will bring more of what you are claiming to desire in your experience. The misalignment with these principles will bring more of what it perfect in this now, but that you are perhaps not claiming to be what you want in your experience.
We hope that this conversation has been as exciting for you as it has been for us.
Q: yes it certainly has and I realize that at the transmission integrates more, I know it had already, but as I continue to ponder and contemplate I know that there is even more that I have not recognized yet. Thank you, I do feel it.
V: We thank you for your time, your energy and your love for the all that is, and with that we return this love and the light of a thousands suns - Anainai. [1:06:45
[ Jessie returns from trance]
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Jessie: Hello
Gail: Hello, do you remember anything ?
J: I remember it was quite powerful
G: Yeah, from the very moment. It was like I wasn't even aware of my words in the first part. My mind was detached it was, it came in pretty quick.
J: You know they say things, even if I do pick up on what's going on for a bit. And even if I would want to infuse myself in it, it's not even possible at this point anymore. [laughs]
G: No.No.
J: it's just going to say what it's going to say and like
G: oh yeah, and the thing is like I wouldn't want you to or if you did it would still be fine, but it was amazing because it, that was so obvious the whole time. Even in my questions, I can't even put it into words. The transmission in that session was for me but it wasn't for me at all it was so powerful
J: Yeah it;'s strange.
G: I understand completely now why we were supposed to have it even though I didn't have actual questions. It's funny you know.. ah ha
J: [laughter]
G: It makes perfect sense now.
J:ok
G: I think that you will like it actually, the content of it. but I am a little bit blown away but at the same time I'm not. Ok
Thank you for your time Jessie.I don't know if you had anything else to say.
J: Yeah and I a little bit dazey and they were also transmitting to me separately. Like of completely unrelated stuff so it was quite weird. It's like they were chastizing me for why don't I go into meditation the same way I go into trance. Type of thing at some point. it was like 'Look, Look at what you are doing right now' like it was almost like they were going.
G: Oh yeah, I see what you mean. they were having....
J: 'You are completely you know... in alignment with the all that is right now....why don't you do this when you are living your life' and stuff and I was like oh my god they are yelling at me. and yet they are talking about something else and I don't even know whats going on. Like really.
G: and the end of it, the transmission at the end of it at different times they are like ...the message doesn't change but I don't know if the pronouns or the verbiage does, but you can always see like a shift or a feeling in it... so I don't know because I don't remember half the fuckings words now... ha ha it was intense but it was good.
J: ah ha
G: it was good. it was good. and I asked one really odd question at the end which keeps coming up every three of four months ..... [chating about the questions for a bit]
J: yeah there was another thing that I noticed, I think that they are giving me more like I don't know.. Something is changing with the chanelling itself because like....they're pointing out to me things as we are channeling, not about the session but about channeling itself. [1:11:16 1:11:16] They were pointing out like the notes, like the notes in it. Like, There is a question being asked, and while the question is being asked, they will point to me and say... Look what you are doing now. Look at how it's empty. And so like my consciousness will be like.... there is just dead silence, but they are turning my awareness back onto that to see that as me.
G: wow.
J: It's like ok Jessie, look at that. So and then I will look at that and then the thing will go on but like... there is the thing going on and it's the craziest thing becuase its more than one consciousness at the same time. It's fucked up. Gail it's fucked up . And so then they will like. The question will end. I won't have heard the question. ok, and then they will ping me again and they will say.... Like watch this ? right and they will deliver three or four information packets, that I get to look at but they are suddenly there, and all the time the talking still happening right so the information packets are like, so now they are ...the words coming out of my mouth are like like we will unpack that, we have two things to say about that right now and I'm going "what the fuck, what the hell is going on, because now they are letting me in on the behind the scenes, it's not even the session.
G: yeah.
J: its messed up. so but like it was almost like they wanted me to notice the speed at which when it arrives they are choosing to deliver it. I don't know if it's like the prepare me for doing this consciously as well.
G: yeah.
J: or but I don't know what, but it felt like a lesson tonight for me.
G: it was like not just a fine tuning but a like a performance review to see how you can improve, but you have never been here before to look at this sooo.
J: Ah like, I don't even know, it was like I saw thing, like I don't even know. I guess like before in the past, I haven't been there enough to see the mechanism, because I haven't been as like in the process enough, but it was like, they were calling into the process and saying this is how it is. I don't know where that leads to, but it was very interesting because I haven't had any way to describe it up until now. Especially like the emptiness because I think people may be assuming that there is thinking happening. Or that
G: yeah.
J: I don't know what people think, is going on when I am channeling.
G; yes, I know what you are saying, I'm so glad of that, I am so glad of that. That you are getting something when we have a session, that you are getting something, Im not going to say 'extra', but whatever word you use. Like you know.
But that's really cool because some of the discussion was readiness for the next step.
and when you are
J: That came up for me today too. I did a tapping on that, because I realized like some of the growth I want to have happen, even in terms of finishing the book, things like procrastination things like that.. I realize it was because I am actually not just comfortable, but like I'm really concerned, like if I wake up tomorrow and instagram has 30,000 followers. I am going to have to be a different person. Do you know what I mean ?
And like
G: You are blowing me away because the it's liking looking in a mirror talking to you because we were having this discussion in the session, but it doesn't just happen in the session. And I know when this happens, I am wondering is she just being psychic and mirroring my fucking words. Like I am not being paranoid. I'm just saying it is so integrated all the time, 90% of the time I talk to you we are so integrated it's like a lesson in oneness.
J: ah ha ha
G: It blows me away. but it's true though you know what I mean.
You are saying what if I wake up tomorrow and I have all these followers and it's just like... it was what our conversation was about...and it was also what I was thinking. It's that change.
J: Yeah, and anyway I am also ok. You know, and now that I see it's the reason that it's not happening, I'm so happy that it's not happening. Like its not happening, I can see you know... That's Why. it's not a whole bunch of other things.What it means is just that's not what I want right now today. [1:16:44
G: Yeah, the other thing they said is ....to me that trying to remember the exact words.
You may be wanting and desiring like expansion but the reason you haven't moved yet, is whatever aspect of me that keeps me safe, and like they had a word on it... but that piece of me that organizes to stay in this container, I have to go and convince it's safe to move on so expansion can happen. but it explained it in a way I haven't seen before, of why it seems to be ok well why isn't this expanding yet, why isn't this expanding. They didn't even say generator or monitor or something like that, when the readiness comes, when each aspect of it is ready, it will just change and the other thing that came up is I was concerned that I would forget who I am if I expanded to what I wan't fully and know is there.
J: cool.
G: pointing to the same readiness.
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