[03:49 3:49] Jessie: While we are waiting and tuning in I would like to invite you to allow any thoughts, that are floating around in your minds are complete, whatever it is that they were trying to communicate to you. And to settle down, just relax into this moment, know that your body is perfectly safe in this moment, so any muscles can relax and your mind doesn't have anything it needs to do, he more empty it can be the more comfortable you will be, I see we are streaming now. And just give yourself that time to relax, and be curious, and just hear. And I will see you in about an hour. So enjoy.

[Jessie enters trance state]

[06:57 6:57] V: Good now to you ? We are pleased to see many of your again, to see some new joining us, we welcome you to this now. With open arms, the prelude this evening, when the vessel described the way to relax, or invited you to take part in a relaxation, was in part a reminder to herself, and of course the always present invitation that is available, to you in any moment, when your state, the state that you are choosing, is not of complete and total relaxation.

If at any time, you state is not of complete and total relaxation, it is because you have aligned yourself with something that is not you, for the true or version of you, [09:03 9:03 (correct themselves ?) No, the guiding factor of you is never agitated, never without complete knowing of well being, and to release any thoughts or sensations that are holding your from matching that state of well being, will of course, feel good, but will also to bring you to know more of yourself, this is why it is often recommended to take that pause and breathe, feel into your body, put space between your thoughts, and allow that sense of full emptiness to flood in, to that space.

We are curious as to the direction the conversation will flow, we are curious to know of your curiosity and welcome you to touch upon any and all topics, that you do feel are preventing you from allowing that space in your mind, in your body, in your life, so that together we may resolve the misunderstanding that any topic could ever prevent you from feeling the true peace that you ultimately are. At your convenience we will be happy to take the first question or topic of discussion or conversation, for our time together. [12:19 12:19]


Host: So there was a question submitted at, in the last meeting, there wasn't enough time for the question, it was referring to a comment that you made in the last 15minutes of the dicussion. And

Q01: You were speaking about senses and also about our vision is our closest example because there was a projection of matter. So that was all, the person did not formulate the question correctly, but I am wondering if you can get the question from that, that they would like to hear more about it ? - they aren't present today to ask so.

V: Yes, Our reference to vision and the sense beyond vision as the manifestation of matter, may not make sense in the context of this conversation at this point, as if there are those who were not present, at the previous conversation, they will not have a reference for the topic and the information that came before mentioning the sense of vision, which was the information on the auditory senses, or the, we will use a term, that is not yet a term, the post auditory senses, and in this case this would be the post visual senses, which are the creation of what one can see, the projection of what one can see, this is a sense that belongs to your body, but we will discuss this perhaps later in this conversation, if and when the context becomes clear, of said discussion.


Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you.[14:46 14:46]

Host: So participants if you have a question or you would like to make a comment, or have a discussion, could you please type a note in the chat and I will let you know when your turn comes up. Right now we are presently waiting for more questions.

V: It it possible that our work is done, in that the work that we have undertaken to collaborate with you is the cessation of all questions, however we are witness to experience not reflecting the[ sensation, cessation <- word correction 16:04 16:04] of questions, within your day to day experience, and so, if it allows for more comfort, we may suggest to take the questions, or source questions, that would aid you in your day to day experience. Alternately, there are the questions that humanity has been asking, there are the questions that all the universe has been asking, since the beginning of time.

Host: Ok, so we have a question from Manuela, can we proceed now ? Ok, Manuela I will unmute you and you can go ahead, go ahead please.

Ok Manuela I am going to ask you to not press the button and I will unmute you.

Ok, go ahead please. We can't hear you for some reason, would you like to type your question in the chat, or to me and I can read it.
So Manuela's question is, she says:

Q03: Can you talk about the tall greys ?

V: Well we can talk about any topic, Can we talk about this topic in a way that is serving you ? Can we talk about it in a way that does not violate your sense of current knowledge ? is another question, we do not feel that we can, talk about that topic, in any way that would not bring more distortion if only, because there is significance assigned and much distortion assigned already to that particular representation of consciousness, the only thing that we may see, or say about this topic is that, whatever it is that you are seeing, or experiencing, or speculating about, in any group or representation of beings, if both what you project, onto that, and so you will always be accurate in you assessment and simultaneously, another version of you, and so if there is, the projection of fear upon a being and it can be as simple as another human being, or a projection of separation, [21:06 21:06] or of putting that being on a pedestal then one is not seeing clearly that being is another version of you, we are aware of the popular culture and new age and cultural significance, or the beings you have asked of us, and this too is a factor of your perception of them, but if you are in contact with any being, and again, we mean as well any human being, not just beings in general, then the best way to evaluate for oneself the nature and speculate, although we do not suggest speculation of the beings, would be the feel into yourself, find that quiet space we spoke of earlier, and see what it is telling you about both yourself and the other version of yourself at that time. We do not say to run from fear sensations, or to put oneself in a situation in which one does not feel safe, however, one is learning from each teacher, that arrives in their experience, and it is no different, if the teacher is of your planet, or incarnate or imagined, what is important is you taking the lesson and allowing yourself to teach yourself, what it is that you wanted to learn, through having created that lesson, this does not invalidate any experiences that one has, be they positive or negative in their lifetime, for there are life paths and themes that you have set out for yourself, before and by before we mean simultaneously with your incarnation, in order to experience those paths and themes for it was your choice to have that experience. And the emotions or what you would call suffering, that comes with certain experiences, is there to be felt and transmuted.

We feel that at this time, we have succeeded in talking to your query while maintaining enough of your sovereignty, for you to be able to move forward and discern for yourself any of the topics that this topic would have contained had we answered it directly. [25:34 25:24] Thank you.

Q: Thank you.

Host: So Piero, I hope I am saying your name correctly. You can proceed with your question now.

Q: Can you hear me ?

V: Yes,

Q04: A friend of mine has lost a very important object, it's essentially a hard drive, containing very important information for a project. and he is looking for it, for that object.
[26:12 26:12] Maybe you can find or help us to find it. There is something in particular about this harddrive, there is a very specific image on top of it, actually I can share the image with you. But, I don't know if you can open this image. I can describe it, it's like there are circles and triangles and some geometric shapes, and uh, it's black and it contains very important information, like a project, a very very important for this friend of mine. And so it contains a lot of information that he lost, and it would be very important for him to find it and I cannot do it myself because I am attached to it.

Host: So I can share the screen, if wished and show the image on my monitor if that would be beneficial.

V:We will tell you first that you can do it yourself. And it would not be as empowering for us to find the drive for you, but this is a nice opportunity, to outline the steps that any of you can take in a similar situation to be able to access this form of information on your own.

Firstly, we will point out to you that when you have lost something, you have not lost it, for you know exactly where it is, it was you as the grand you, who was there and present as the witness at the time of it being misplaced. Whether or not your conscious awareness knows where it is or not you subconscious mind does, and your higher version, higher self, absolutely knows exactly, where it has been misplaced. Often items go misplaced specifically because it is your higher self who knows that that item would best serve you without you having access to it at that time. This is why, our higher selves know better than we do, they often put our glasses up on to our foreheads and we cannot read that book right in the moment we want to and then find the glasses on the forehead at a later time and then say, oh silly me. It was because it was not time to read that book, it was time to look for ones glasses, and something else has transpired in that same amount of time, that one was looking for the glasses.

We understand we believe that there is an importance to this hard drive at this time, and there may be, however, to access it's location, one may and it may be you or your friend we suggest both, get very still and quiet, and do the exact opposite of what it is you think you are meant to be doing which is accessing the location of the harddrive, in fact the thing that one must do in this case, is silence oneself, to such state to such a level of silence, that when you ask yourself the question, where is it, you are quiet enough to hear the response. There is a response. [30:34 30:34]

There are mediums, and psychics that will and can and in fact there is even someone in this group that had probably accessed the location of your missing drive, it could be you, who perform these sort of services, we do not, for we would not have you believe that there is someone outside of you that has more power or more capability than you to access this sort of information, especially when it is personally related to you, and we apologize, if that would be the only reason for which you have joined us this evening, but we are certain that within the next 18 hours the hard drive will be found.[31:41 31:41]

[31:49 31:49] [ LINK To Q01]
Q05: V: This actually ties in very nicely with that discussion about the senses beyond the senses, for some of you will have the auditory sense and tying back into the post vision, there is the possibility to also alter reality, as reality is not solid or fixed, and is altered at all times,

In fact when the hard drive was misplaced this was an altering of reality, of visualizing a projection, visualizing the item into being,again, if you are quiet enough, and blank enough the image of the hard drive will come into your mind in it's location. This does not mean it was in it's location, a moment prior, and it does not mean that you as the human being have magically had it appear there, but it does mean that you as consciousness, have collaborated with the consciousness of the item, which is only consciousness fundamentally, to rendezvous at that location, which too is consciousness.

Allow yourself to have the information about where this harddrive is, transmitted into you by yourself, which is the all that is. We hope that that discourse was useful for some of you or one of you, and feel we can move on to the next question.

Host: Ok James, Im going to unmute you now. You can ask your question.

Q06: Ok, Thank you, I will try to express this, I don't know if its more of a question or discussion, we are talking about the senses, and you talked earlier about the peace we find within ourselves, my question is more about empathy, in relation to that and what I am finding with the work I do with people, the layers I find, with when I feel in the energies or whatever issue people are having that they come to see me for, and the layers I find in those layers and so forth, I am assuming that's infinite, and the effect that it has on me that I start to find over days or weeks or months, where I have discomfort where I blame myself for and then find in some situations where a client will have a release, and then I have a release in the days following, I guess my question around that is, is so convoluted, there are so many layers to different things about empathy and so many aspects of people around us, and life around us, and yes we are creating all that, is much as I step back from the agenda of healing people, knowing that I cannot, that it's up to them, is part of that a projection of that, is there a part of me, taking on those responsibilities that can cause discomfort within myself because they are not my responsibilities to have, can you talk around that ? I don't know if I have expressed that well enough.

V: [36:18 36:18] Yes, any time you are taking on the energy of others, and choosing to suffer from having taking on that energy, you have intertangled yourself with the other, there is no reason why, you cannot be empathetic, and also in peace, in your own being, they are not mutually exclusive, it is believed that they are, for we have in culture, been taught that it is important to care, to seem as if one feels what the other is feeling, and you may, there is no reason not to, there may be absolutely nothing wrong with that process and system that you have, in these relationships. It is not necessarily a bad thing that you are taking on these energies, and releasing simultaneously with these beings, however if it is no longer to your preference, we would suggest only that you change nothing on your mental and physical plane, we do not believe that this is the case. But that you may step more fully into that silence, where you can convince yourself that even with the emotional addition of what you are seeing as this external convoluted complications from these interactions, that in that space, all is well, for you and for the client. And if you come from this space when you meet with people, you may not be received on the human level, as empathetic, however on the energetic level, you are actually preforming the healing work and you know this. A clean way of interacting with people, is to interact with them in the moment that you are with them, in the best and most loving way that you can, and in the moment that you are not with them, and do not need to be present to their issues or suffering to allow yourself to let those things go, then you can be present for yourself, or for the next person, or for the pigeon that you see on the corner. And if you need to, we suggest you invent, for yourself some rituals or practice that reminds you that your time with this client is up in that moment, whether it be having a shower or washing your hands and face in a particular way, the ritual is up to you, for it does not matter what the ritual is, what matters is your intention to end the transmission, end your giving in that moment temporarily until you see them again, In order to reclaim your energetic boundaries.
Have we left anything out ? [40:47 40:47]

Q: No, that was very clear, its very helpful it gives me some insight to follow, thank you, I appreciate that.

V: Thank you.

Host: So Karissa you can go ahead with your question now.

Q07: Ah, I feel I do not have a question, the question that I had became irrelevant, and I am just open to anything that you feel would benefit me or us.

V: [41:55 41:55] You would all l benefit much from loving yourselves more and each time we talk about you, language fails, for that word talks about something so vast, and so multifaceted that without specifying in each moment what you we are talking of you what level of you we are talking of, confusion is invited into the conversation, in this case, when we say you will benefit from loving yourselves more, we are not talking about your highest version or , (WE HAVE USED the word VERSION twice out of content this evening, we apologize), you highest or higher self, we are not talking about your higher self loving you the person, we are not talking about the person loving the body you, and enjoying more hand cream, we are talking about the person you, tapping into the higher self version of how much you are loved, by yourself already, you are infallible, loved unconditionally, there is nothing you can do wrong, there is nothing you have to do, there is nowhere you have to go, nothing you have to be, to sit with yourself, your higher self, and bask in that love, resolves much of what is desiring to be resolved by the person, and the person can forgive itself, for the higher self has nothing to forgive, and you see the paradox is that you are all of these beings, already and right now, you just forget, or do not know yourself to be, so the person, is perfect, as perfect as the higher self, for the higher self has already accepted and in fact decided upon every aspect of the person, you are basically walking around with your most ideal lover, your most ideal parent and your most ideal companion at all times within you. [46:06 46:06]

Q: Thank you.

Host: James you can go ahead with your question.

Q08: Thank you, Another topic I guess is, I have a friend of my sister, terminally unwell, and even though I absolutely know that she has potential to heal like we all do, so the choices we make, I find the boundary in my work on at which point can I or should I step into offering advice, when it's not landing on my doorstep, it's a line, a grey line that I find a lot in my world, that I am not too sure when you have an agenda or too attached or knowing that that persons experiencing what they choose to experience regardless of what we see as the outcome of suffering or not because that is just experience.

[47:34 V: [audio overlap] [Keep ???? an offering,

Q: yeah,

V: and there is a negative feeling, if that offering is rejected, you can know that your offering is not coming without personal agenda, so if you were to approach this person, an offer to give them advice or heal them directly, and they would say 'No', and you would feel a recoil of any form from that rejection, then you are telling yourself that there is something within you, that this experience is asking you to heal, in yourself, and then your attention can be shifted to yourself to heal, what is then evidenciated for you by that experience, we believe this may be the case, that you might have some healing to do with regards to allowing other people to suffer, when you know that they do not need to, if this is the case, then you would do well, to spend the time, either through having these experiences, and feeling these sensations of the rejection, or with some direct work onto the knowing that all is well, which we believe you have, on an intellectual level, but have not fully experienced at this time.

With regards to the other part of the question, and the grey line, where you do not know, whether or not, you are able to offer offering is always, always ok, but it needs to be that clear offering, that does not have the negative connotations if not accepted, because you must offer with the idea that it is an offering that you are giving away this idea or talent, or opportunity to heal, without any expectation, of it being even accepted, because your love, is the offering, not the accepting, it is not your love that is being not accepted, that is where the grey line ends, you are offering your your love, and it does not matter, if your love is accepted. The other way to approach these types of situations, is if you have not had an invitation, you are not invited, so in the case of a acquaintance, of an acquaintance, if a person, if the person is aware of the fact that you offer these services you may make that, known if they are not aware, and if the invitation does not follow, for your services, then you are then invited by the situation to sit with your discomfort about it and in sitting with your discomfort, about it will heal more profoundly, the need to fix or help or change what is already by the 'all that is' exactly what needs to be, and you may even approach this particular situation or the rejection of an offering as a beautiful gift that is it to you, because when consciousness gets together, and makes a plan, it may be that this person's entire life, had been lived for this moment, just to heal you, even through their death. And with the idea washing upon you, imagine the gratitude that you will feel and the love that you will then transmit to this person in rejecting your offer, and you know, how healing that is, so perhaps they never come to you for direct services, perhaps you never use your skills and talents with this person, however, your contract with them, turns the whole scenario around and they become your healer, and in becoming your healer, your gratitude for having been healed, of this distortion, in turn heals them. This may be the case with one being or or multiple beings or all the beings, for you are all in contract with each other and you are all as is said, walking each other home. So, if you have a direct invitation, you are not crossing a line, if there is no direct invitation you may make your offer known, if the offer is rejected and at that point you insist on providing services regardless or feel a resentment for not being able to, then at that point the line is very much crossed.

Q: Thank you very much
V: Thank you. [53:31 53:31


Host: Ok Varun, I believe you have a question. Is it possible for you to turn on your video as well. It's ok if you can't but if it's possible it would be great. Thank you. You can go ahead how.

Q: Can you hear me ?
Host: yes.

Q09: A family member of mine was admitted to a mental hospital a few weeks ago and I had a question regarding it. Would you have any insight as to why an entity would choose to create mental illness and how would you suggest as to serve this entity, in order for him to gain his chosen sense of self ?

V: This ties very well into the previous question, in that, it is likely that this being is serving all those around him as much as, he would be served by them having found some sort of solution to help him to come back to a state of mental clarity or calm, and in this case we would suggest a focus on that, what have the catalysts been, or what has been catalyzed by this change of events, or this change of circumstance, and what benefits have come forth from the choice that this entity or this being is making to have this experience that perhaps not internal to them, perhaps, this is one of the many entities who chooses to come to incarnation much like your children who are ill from birth, in order to aid those around them to learn the lessons that those around them have chosen to learn in this lifetime, so, that may answer you question in part as to why a being would choose to have mental illness or would choose difficulties in these sections of their life.

How you may support them, is by radiating your unconditional love in their direction, holding them in their choice, and in their suffering, but we stay that in terms of you hold them with compassion in the suffering that to them is real, if it is the case, and you hold yourself in the suffering that is real, if that is the case, there is no need to hide from ones suffering, for it is through that, that it will be teaching, how to transcend suffering in general, and to see this family member as you, will aid you in many ways, into walking with them and walking this path with them, you may hold in your mind, what would I want, what would I want from someone who came to visit for example, or what would I want from someone who is thinking of me and then as you think of this person, think of them only as the light that they are, and hold that vision for them, even if they cannot at this time.

Was there anything more ?

Q: No that was perfect, thank you,
V: Thank you. [57:51 57:51]

Host: So there are not further questions at this time.

V: We would like to thank you for this continued opportunity to work with you, or work for you, we are grateful for your presence, humbled that you would take the time out of your lives to spend a moment together, we do wish for you, to truly rest as the light at you are, and come to yourself, many times in your day. Simultaneously, we wish you so much joy and laughter, and the freedom to take it all far less seriously, for it is truly just a game that you so much wanted to play, just for a little while. With that we wish you the love and the light of a thousand suns, Anainai , [1:00:16 1:00:16]

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