[ 06:02 6:02 Transmission starts]

V: Welcome, There is quite an amount of tension in the vessel tonight.
Due to concerns that we would not be able to work with and manipulate, the altered vocal chords. For us, this is a welcome experiment, as you may imagine the distance though it is not distance, for it is beyond location, from which we pull the puppet strings, in collaboration with the vessel, that the alteration, is moreso to the tension, brought in with the mind than the vocal chords themselves.

We invite the vessel to relax and you to relax, as we welcome to this fine evening where we will share, in knowing more of yourselves, you will share in knowing more of yourselves, you will share in the knowing of the oneness, or our co-creation in this moment.

We feel at this time that we may take the first question, if there is one available.

Host: Manuela, you may speak your question now. I have just unmuted you.

Q01: Hello everyone, thank you for giving me the opportunity to ask this question.
It's been a while since I've changed, and I feel like I am blocked at this point. like if there is something blocking me, or maybe information comes in and I then, I cannot access it, I don't know what's going on, I am very nervous, I am sorry.

It's like it, I can't [???09:22 9:22] it so much, I feel like I have it, but I cannot reach it. Is there something that was made to me, some agreement that I made, or is there some way I can fix it.

V: Yes, the first suggestion we have is for you is to understand that there is nothing to fix, what you are experiencing is a space that occurs when one is intellectually or mentally inclined releases and surrenders more into their entire being, the information becomes less important, and less accessible because it is less needed to proceed with ones path, which is the letting go of the need to know information.

There is a point, or a possible point, a potential point in the journey, where all of your knowledge becomes discarded it needs to be discarded, or forgotten, in order to obtain knowing, obtain is not the correct word, that there is nothing to obtain, however the correct word may be realize or allow, to allow knowing, knowledge is no longer necessary.

Knowledge can be passed from one being to another, knowing is the state of integration with knowledge, on a complete level, and it cannot be passed from one being to another, for it is the integration, in the all, or the understanding that one was already integrated with the all.

There is nothing to fear in this situation, you may relax into it completely, you may allow yourself to forget, we are always advocating for forgetting, as opposed to remembering, we are always advocating for allowing, forgetfulness to arise upon you, for it is in that not knowing that the knowing arrives. [11:34 11:34] Does this make sense to you ?

Q: In a way yes, I feel like I want to share but because I cannot access it, I feel like I am unable to.

V: What you want to share is information, yes ?

Q: yes, with my closest ones.

V: It is possible that it is not in your blueprint or life path or agreement as you said earlier, to share information in this way, rather it is in your agreement or life path to share your beingness with otherselves. Perhaps you are not a teacher, or speaker in that manner, it is possible that it is your being true to yourself and your being whole that will influence and allow others to then come to you, and ask you for your information, we assure you that if you were asked directly by someone that is close to you, what is is you know, or how it is you know or how is it that you arrived at your state of clarity, and shining, that you at that point will have the information for them, and you do not need to make sure that it is available at all times,

Q: ok

V: Does this bring some relief ?

Q: Yes I have other question, but I am understand there is more people to make questions, so, I will wait if there is another opportunity, I will then.

V: We will talk to you again soon.

Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you.

Host: Ok Karissa, I believe you have the next question.

Q02: Thank you. I feel at peace with the not asking, but something is saying still ask. So, my question is, when it, relating to the last question as well, whenever someone is confused, and feels that that there is a right choice, but for instance from you I feel, or have felt that that there was a choice or decision that needed to be made, but I felt caught between not having the clarity to move forward, and so I was reminded, that this was my opportunity to be patient, and surrender even more, and I would love for you to speak on the knowing of when it is the time to be patient and surrender, and also when it's time to simply choose. Can you speak on that in general ?

V: Yes, you are choosing at all times. And we often speak of choosing, how everything is your choice, however, we will also point to the fact that if a choice is not arising within you, it is not time to be making a choice. when there is some issue before you, where it seems as if you have to make a decision, it is in that moment, not possible to make a decision because a decision has not been made [15:43 15:43] as we speak of time not existing in a linear fashion, as the now being the only moment in time, the moment in time in which is seems that there is a decision to be made and there is no decision being made, it what is in that moment in time. We assure all of you that when choices do need to be made, they are made and they are made effortlessly, for you know in that moment what is your choice, before the moment that you have an effortless decision, in a situation that seems to be of choosing, it is not yet the moment, where the choice has been made. This comes back to, time and how it is non-linear and how humans like to apply the concept of linearity to time, as if what they ponder or think of or spend their time pondering and obsessing about in this moment about choosing something in a future moment, would actually affect the choice at all. It does not affect the choice at all no matter how much you think about the pros and cons, it does not affect the choice at all, how many bits of information or circumstance, [or lines 16:56 16:56] so that you can make a decision that's in a rational fashion, the choice is made in the moment that the choice is made and no moment before that, so any effort put into making a choice, is delaying the choice itself, in many ways.
And we remind you that there is no correct choice, every path is the correct path, you path cannot be the not correct path, it cannot be the less beneficial path, [17:29 17:29] it is always the most beneficial path, the only one who could have a perception, of it being less beneficial is your mind, and is your judgement, that have you been trained into or conditioned by, to apply to your life.

So you may relax at all times when it seems that there is a choice to be made, it will delay your choice and it will not lead you astray.

Q: So would say then that if I think that I have to make a choice or I need to make a decision, and I think oh I don't have clarity that simply my option is best to relax and then the clarity will come and then the decision will be obvious.

V: Yes.

The decision will be obvious because in the moment that you are deciding it, you will be actioning upon it, and your belief that any choice needs to be made, or have to make a decision is not entirely accurate, there is no situation in which you need to make a decision or have to make a decision.

Q: That feels good, Thank you.
V: Thank you.

Host: Thijs you have the next question ? Would you like to go ahead.

Q03: Yeah, I have a question regarding diet, and I don't believe that eating animal products deterimental to the ascension process, but there are many stories that tell the extra terrestrial entities of 4th density or even higher, that they only eat plant food, or drink only juices, or even live on diet that is lighter than that, and since we as humanity are shifting into 4th density, I wonder is there any benefit either consuming, less animal products or even stopping eating animal products. I feel like a lot of people on a journey are still struggling with this question so much so, I am asking this for a lot of other people as well.

V: You spoke of benefit and detriment, these are not terms that we would use, for it is in the choice of all beings to choose without the fear of benefit or detriment, as the previous question, we explained that there is no wrong path. So we do not make any form of judgement, and we do not wish that your judge yourselves or other selves, based upon their choices, we will speak to the energetics of consuming of animal products, this will perhaps aid in your own choosing of whether or not that is something that is still, or future wise in your choosing, the cells of your body, contain your blueprint, they contain your makeup, your physical makeup, your present moment, your past moment, your future moment, they are intricately connected to your timeline, we have to remind you that, in what you call higher densities, there is the dissolving of time in a linear fashion and so this question, does not apply to the absolute levels of consciousness, by any means, but on the physical level of consciousness, or the level of consciousness that actually does consume food, in the same way that your cells contain your entire story, the cells of the animals that you consume, contain their entire stories, in the beginning of your civilizations the consumption of animals was ritualistic, symbolic and had a form of intention behind it, based very much, both on survival in that if you managed to kill a buffalo, before the winter, and consume it, you had more body fat for the winter, during your hunter gathering phase and this buffalo was accepted into the home and into the body, with gratitude, directly because of the effort that was made, to arrive in that moment in time of those beings, in other cultures, this is still the case where before consuming an animal one thanks the animal for it's interaction and its sustenance in that moment in time, as you are consuming the story of the animal that you are eating, we would be wary to know the story of the animal, that one was eating, we know that on your planet, there are many situations in which the animals that you are consuming for food are not having very pleasant stories, before they arrive in your stomachs. As you consume these animals these stories become integrated with yours, this is proven as well in your scientific books, you can read upon the consumption of hormones, and stress hormones that come through meat products, and this would influence many choices about eating animals or not eating animals you are intricately linked with the food that you eat, the animals that have come to your planet to participate in this experience, experience to become your food, do have a soul contract with you, they have come to this place, in agreement for their experience, and so one can say well we agreed to this beforehand, but the agreement was not only to be eaten by you, it was also to awaken you, to an understanding of the oneness of all. It is up to each individual at this time, to decide, what they feel about this topic, what they feel about the conditioning that they have, that has led the food industry to the place it is, in this moment, and to decide whether or not they will be continuing or starting to consume animal products, on a physical level, there is no specific detriment or benefit, again it is all a choice, there can be people who will be very sick from eating animal products and those who will thrive upon them, this is inconsequential. One must do what makes one feel good, with the understanding that everything is interconnected. The beings that are of what you call of other densities are in some part non physical and therefore have no need to consume animal products, or even vegetation and neither do you but that would be a choice. [27:17 27:17]

Host: Thijs has that answered your question.

Q: Yeah, I believe so there is this one part that I believe, I believe that plants are alive too.
So yeah, in my perspective they should also be honored and we should also be grateful for eating plant life as well.

V: Yes.
Q: Ok.
V: But not should.

Q: No of course.
Ha ha
Thank you.

V: And you are right that plants do have their own consciousness, and that they have the same interconnectedness with a being who consumes them, often however their stories are quite a lot less tramatic than animal life.

Thank you for your question.
Q: Thank you [ 28:38 18:38]

Host: Ok Manuela you can ask your question next.

Q04: Ok so, I feel ah, a bit confused, if I am or I am not following the path that I was supposed to, because at this point in my life, it feels like it is not right, but the other options don't seem better. Is there a way to know if I am truly following my path ?

V; [29:26 29:26] Yes you are truly following your path, as you are on it, you are not able to follow a path that is not yours, the path that you are on is always the path that you are on, it is always the path you are meant to be on, and it is always leading you to who you are and who you are meant to be. How you feel about the path, does not indicate whether or not it is the one that is correct for you, for the actual desires you had preincarnation, for you may have a path that does not seem to be pleasant however it is teaching you what you have to learn, or what you have chosen yourself to learn, preincarnation, to become the version of the soul if that is a word that you would choose, that you wanted to be, you in every moment have the option to choose, new options, you can choose new directions, you can choose new frontiers, for your lifes journey, and what you are seeing as options, which are not seeming to be better than what you are doing, are not better than you are doing, but it is because you are not choosing something that you are not seeing yet, because you cannot choose it, until you arrive at the point in the path where it is visible.
[30:47 30:47]


You are doing fine. You can't do better because you are already doing perfectly.

Q: Thank you that is reassuring, thank you.
V: Thank you. [31:06 31:06]

Host: Ok, Karissa, you can ask your question now.

Q05: Ok thank you. I have two questions but the first one is, what's the most joyful message you could share with us, right now.

V: All is one. If you understood that message, completely, you would be crying for joy.
And we auger that shortly, all of you do understand that message completely.

[Long pause]

Host: Ok Karissa we have quite a long list, so I will come back to you again later.
Q: Perfect thank you.

V: Thank you.

Host: Fazzilini, I hope I said you name correctly, it is your turn to ask a question.

Q06: Hi Everyone, It is more than a question, [33:19 33:19] I have a it's like an introduction because for me this is the first time, and I would like to know where are you from, if we met or if we will meet in the future, some history of your background. That's it.

V: We are you, we have no name specifically but have allowed ourselves to be called by a name by your vessel and this group here.

We choose to communicate with you for the message we shared in the last question, we choose to communicate with you because we have heard the calling, on your part, for this form of communication, we do not come from a specific location, we do not come from past or future, as where we are, and where is not the correct term but as we are there is no time. We see no separation, though we understand when there are beings that do see separation, and so can modulate our responses to be better understood by those who cannot see unity at this time. And we are meeting right now and now, and now.

Q: Thanks that is enough for today. Thank you. [35:44 35:44]

Host: Mardon, it's now your turn would you like to go ahead with your question ?

Q06: Hi, I am going to go, this is continuing on with Thijs question about diet, and what came up for me, as I am seeing other entities right now on planet earth that consider themselves bretherians, and are living off of prana, and not eating very much, and so is this, is this the evolution as we are ascending ? Is this where we are ascending to maybe not even need food ? to live off of from that ? Is that how you survive, is that where we are going is not even needing food.

V: It is if this is your choice for that to be, the direction, it is a potential future, and a potential present, the people that you are referring to, have mastered some of the art of intention and so are able, to overide the conditioning of their minds, as to how the body functions, and they do so, there are also those who would like to do so who have not mastered that art and experiment with it, there are no absolutes, and no predictions, of the future as it is always of your choosing. If that is something that excites you, they you may as always point yourself in that direction, with courage and faith that you, if it is meant for you, will learn what you need to learn through those experiences.

Q: Thank you.
V: Thank you. [38:06 38:06]

Host: Gloria you can ask your question now.

Q08: Yeah, Trauma, fear, pleasure they register in the body through the senses and the senses seems to anchor our belief and, that we are a body. I am grateful for this instrument, but how can you have any suggestions on how to let go of the grip of the senses. To become all that is.

V: [38:53 38:53 There are senses beyond your senses, you familiarize yourself with those senses and you will see how minor the physical senses were, as you continue to experiment with your intuition, your vision and we mean nonphysical vision, is one step you can take, another step is to not take anything very seriously, a physical reaction is no different than any other experience, that you may have, it's no different than a thought, it's no different than a lamppost, you identify with it, but if you chose to you could begin to identify with all of the lampposts that you see, and you could begin to have the experience of this universe as a lamppost, it's sounds extremely abstract, right now, but the next time you are walking down the street, look for a lamppost, and give it the same value as you give to your physical sensations, not the idea of a lamppost, but the actual energy that is configuring that thing that you believe to be seeing in front of you. Our example could have been a tree, or a dog, the first image was lamppost.

They do not have a grip on you, your physical sensations, you are choosing for them to be important, and while your body is a very faithful ally, it is not important, it was your mind or your thoughts, there is no importance you are very creative and have fantastic imaginations, we are sure you are able to come up with some sort of game to play with yourself that allows you to break free or what you would call break free if you thought you were in grips of your physical sensations. And enjoy them, the ones that you believe are negative, they are not negative, they are beautiful, you need to, or can if you choose to, apply the seeing labels that you associate as pleasure to any of your negative sensations as well. [42:11 42:11]

Host: Gloria does that answer your question ?
Q: Absolutely, beautiful, thank you so much.
V: Thank you.


Host: James you are next, would you like to ask your question ?
Oh, I just got your message, but would you like to ask it.

Q09:[James] Sure, Oh, I will ok, gratitude again.
I am just not sure I can word this right, but I will try.

It's more about the mind, and separation, duality, unity, and being in the physical body which is of, you know we are of this world, this separation and the mind is always challenged by that there is self, otherself, like we see you as other than who we are, rather than as one, although there is a working towards an acceptance of everything is one, is it possible to achieve that within the human body, that connection and understanding as one or is that just trying to hard, is the point of separation into have an acceptance of unity. The experience which where we are working with

V: [43:58 43:58] One can have the complete perception of unity within the physical body, while in incarnate as human, it is not beyond your experience, you must choose it, but in your example, you did mention trying too hard, this is directly in counterbalance to the ability to achieve such unity, for the unity in itself does not see separation as separate from it, therefore trying towards anything is the striving towards something not being wanted, and something else being wanted which automatically divides the all that is, into wanted and unwanted, which is separation. So you are accurate in that you said, one must surrender to separation if one wants to see unity, if it absolutely paradoxical, to your mind, but it is the road, for in unity there is no separation and at that the same time the concept of separation and the reality of separation is part of the all that is. And cannot be separated from it, it is all inclusive, including of the concepts of separation.

It is in fact why you have come to this plane to play this game, because it is directly though the experience of separation that you will have the clue towards achieving what you would think you would want to be achieving as unity, but from the perspective of unity, it does become quite laughable, this is back to why we said that if you did understand the concept of all is one, you would be crying tears of joy, because everything would be forgotten and everything pardoned. Your belief in separation would not longer be a problem. It could exist simultaneously with your knowledge of all being one, there is nothing to remove. For it's all one. There is nothing to change. For it's all one.

If your desire is, to understand unity, and we believe it is, then it does require taking off the running shoes, and stopping the chasing, stopping the looking, for it's already here, and it includes the being that believes itself to be separate. [46:50 46:50]

Q: Thank you, thank you for the clarity.
V: Thank you.

Host: Dylan you are next, you can ask your question now. [47:06 47:06]

Q: Can you hear me ok ?
V: Yes

Q10: My question is, how do you teach meditation ?

V: How do you teach meditation or how do we teach meditation ?

[Laughter]
Q: ha ha How do I teach meditation.

V: However you like, there will be

Q: How would you teach meditation ?

V: There will be people who will only learn meditation through your teachings, whatever comes naturally, to you is the correct teaching. The correct modality of teaching meditation. We do not teach meditation, we suggest meditation if only, because we are aware that one having taking distance from the thought forms that they choose to adopt and identity with in their day to day life, if they take pause from these thought forms they will begin to be able to hear what is beneath them which is not very much at all, and that not very much at all, is actually what is motoring your being, so we advise meditation and we suggest meditation and we practice of it, or the learning at least of it in order to hear that voice which is not a voice, it is a silence. And if you would like to point other selves to that inner silence, well that is beautiful then you must do it in the way that feels best to you as there will be a soul contract with beings who will learn from that teaching, who would not have learnt from your otherwise, or would not have learned from anyone otherwise to find this inner silence.

Why are you unsure about your ways ?

Q: I'm very sure about my ways, I am just wondering about your ways.

V: Our ways are your ways.

Q: Ok ha ha thank you.

V: Thank you. [ 49:21 49:21]

Host: Ok, so just a reminder if anyone has a question to please type it in the chat. We have a few questions left, Karissa, you may ask your question now.

Q11: Ok, I'm curious if there is a game that you could give us, and I was going to say, to forget separation but your already spoke to that. But it just feels fun to ask for a game that helps us here in the group towards what it is we want, which I was going to describe as forgetting separation. But I think you can feel my intention in this, is that right ?

V: We think you are more qualified.

Q: ha ha

V: And more imaginative and creative as we suggested earlier, with the letting go of sensation. We would point to all of you to remembering that your minds, or your brains or ability to form thought are so unbelievably spectacular and can be put to so many more uses than you currently put them to, you power of imagination and intention are so powerful in terms of how you can create your reality, if not if only your internal reality, but your external reality as well. That playing games with your mind, as you have suggested is absolutely genius, for if you can imagine yourself into a state of being, you have not fooled anyone, you have not even fooled yourself. You have simply arrived at that state of being.
There is no thought police that is going to then check in what way you arrived, if it is good for you to imagine yourself to have butterfly wings and flying around the earth sprinkling pollen on all the flowers, and that makes you feel good, then we suggest to do that. For your state of being will then allow you to access new thought forms with which you can create in your what you would call actual life. The butterfly life is no less real, than the illusion you are creating, that seems to be real in your physical bodies currently.

We have invented a game for you, butterflies.

ha ha

Q: Thank you
V: Thank you.

Host: Are there any other questions at this time people ? [52:28 52:28]

Q: I have one.
Host: Yes Karissa.

Q: I think I know that you are going to say, my question is without someone having the idea of mercury retrograde, and what that does or doesn't mean, but then experiences, like fluctuations of emotions or miscommunications and these things, before the idea of mercury retrograde comes to them consciously, is it for me, or have it, or do we basically tune into the consensus or collective agreement ? that something like mercury retrograde has this effect on us ? Is that what I am experiencing. Or what happens.

V: What do you think we will answer ?

Q: ha ha I twisted the question into something which I didn't actually know what you would answer, but I think yes,

V: Something external to you is external to you, and therefore nothing external to you can have power over you. There is no external, including the planets, if they are holding some sort of effect on you it is because you are consenting to that. You may choose at any time not to consent to that at any time.

Q: Cool, thank you.

Host: Ok, So there are two or three more questions, are there time for some others.

V: There is time for one.

Host: Fazzilini I am going to unmute you.

Q13: [55:28 55:28] Thank you, If I understood well, if you are us, or you are me, or me are you, how can we access or unblock your knowledge. Also how can we access to all the knowledge and all these answers, also, myself, or myself and you. I don't know if I am explaining good.

V: Yes, you absolutely can, it is a question of believing you can and desiring so, and allowing that to occur, it is a question of not doubting the information that arrives to you, allowing the information to come into you and through you if necessary, and to access the essence of the all that is, with the questions that you have on a regular basis, this is your natural connection to higher self or source, you all have access to this, this is what protects you from walking in front of cars or perfects the timing of your life, and you do have access to it.

Even the vessel does not apply for lack of desire or the lack of perceiving worthiness, the ability to ask questions directly, to us in the way that is being allowed to you at this time, and then on another level , for her for you there would the the willingness to actually integrate the information, that is given to you that we have noted that even on a direct level does not always occur. You all have access to all of the higher realms, it is a question of believing so or allowing yourself to know so and to forget everything that taught you that you couldn't access the higher realms.

This is another reason why we have chosen to come and talk with you at this time.

And now we will release the vessel, who believes that she will start coughing immediately and we laugh. HA . and we would love to wish you all an amazing few days until we meet again. With the love of a thousand suns.

Host: We love you thank you.

V: Anainai. [58:30 58:30

[ Jessie returns - no coughing]