V: Hello, we do hear some distortion with the microphones, are you able to resolve that ?

Q: I can turn down my volume and is if that helps.

V: It is our pleasure to have you here. Yes that will suffice.
We are pleased to meet you, though we know you as you know us.

We are so happy for you to ask whatever questions you have, we are happy also to share in the experience in any way that feels good to you, at this time.

Q: So I feel like it would be settling for me, to maybe first just ask, why I am here, right now.

V: You mean why are you here on this call ?
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A deeper question you hold is why you are here, in this existence, the answer to both, is the same, is it because you choose to be, and because you choose to listen, to the voice inside of you who is choosing to be here. You are standing by yourself, which is not by yourself in aloneness, but beside yourself with honor and admiration for the you that you truly are, this is a skill that you have learnt over much of what you would call time, but it is a collaborative effort between you and the other millions and billions of versions of you, we believe that you will heal soothing, simply by observing or being in the presence of an energy that you already know to be yours, in the illusion of another self.

Q02: How do I find that ?

V: You are already finding it, for the energies that you can sense that come from any being with which you resonate including not physical beings, can only be resonant for you because they are of your same frequency. Even the recognition to join with more of yourself in this moment, is you acknowledging the true frequency within yourself at this moment in time, you are attracted to this call, to this moment, as confirmation of what you already knew about what you are moving towards, and moving into and wanting to allow yourself to experience.

Q03: Can you give me any clarity on what it is that I want to experience, because there are pieces that are feel in conflict but also not in conflict and so there is trouble resolving that in my consciousness.

V: We would say that the concepts of conflict or the sensing of conflict that you are experiencing, is your inner being telling you that there is no conflict for if there was conflict and conflict was true and conflict was something that was part of the reality of the All That Is, then when you tuned into it, you would feel pleasant sensations, because you are tuning into your ideas, that are seemingly causing you a sensation of duality of conflict, and having a negative sensation to them, or the sensation that the conflict could be real and therefore prevent you from being who you truly want to be, here in this time, emotions are giving you the hint, that you are stepping in a direction that is simultaneously not your direction and not the ultimate reality of the situation.

Q: Is it possible to elaborate on that ?

V: [18:19 18:19] Yes, circumstantial conflict, is a idea at all times, it is an idea, of what you are projecting into the future, about, what would happen if you made the choice that you are about to make, so the actually situation of the conflict has not yet occurred, there is no evidence, in reality, which is this now moment that it will 100% occur except for the thoughts that you have, that [ 18:50 ?? that it will ]

Q: Ah ha makes complete sense.

V: Yes, no matter the conflict, in your mind, what it could be, there is no guarantee, that that is what will occur if that decision was made, except that your thoughts are creating your reality. The moment you believe in conflict, it is true, yes there is conflict but the moment you choose to not believe in conflict or to make the decision that is true to you anyway, reality will reorganize itself around that decision, to present you with the next learning lesson that is most useful for you in the path that you are heading in.

Q04: Can I ask for any clarity on the path that I am heading to, it feels rather large and there is a responsibility with it because of the gifts and the lessons that I have already learned, is there anything that would be helpful to know about what that looks like.

V: Yes, we are talking in concepts again,

Q: Ok

V: The responsibility, is yes yours, but your main responsibility is to listen to what source within you is telling you, for you are not alone, in your path, you are supported by your true essence, at all times, which will not violate the free will of the person that you are, however is cheering and rooting for you to head in the path that is most in service to all, yes when you are in service to all, you do have a large responsibility, to remain within integrity, however we are sensing that from you, the question is not whether or not you will remain in integrity, the question is whether or not you will have faith in yourself that you can remain in integrity, which we can see, by your energetic signature, that you will not have a problem with as the responsibility increases, it will become very natural to you because of shifts that will also happen, within you from accepting this challenge, of from accepting this gift, that will allow you to no longer have to worry, in the way that you currently do, that you could make a mistake.

Q: That's a big one, making sure that the responsibility I have to the people I serve, that I do it, that I do it at a level, that is helpful, and of service, and not selling them short so, is there advice or guidance for in the moment right now, to help me move through that, so that it's no longer something that I am holding on to and worrying about.

V: Yes, we would have you replay this small statement that you made, just now, to yourself as if you were another being, or in the statement you made if you feel into your own energy there is a 100% confidence behind that energy that your intention is coming from your heart space, there is not one element of your intention that is coming from some form of other space within you, as you see this in yourself, you will begin to have faith that even with what you now perceive of as imperfections of your human self, even with the potential of error or remembrance of error that, that you have committed in the past, that you have not yet forgiven yourself for, even with these foibles, you in your base intention do have the interests of the whole above your own, individual interests it is having faith within this knowing deep within yourself that no matter what you were told before now, in order to learn this lesson, no matter what you were told, before now about your imperfections, or your bad decisions, or the disaster that you could create in other beings, you have to begin to listen to that inner self that absolutely knows that you heart is pure, for it is, it cannot not be.

Q: I can feel that one. [23:38 23:48]

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V: You are an element creator that has been created in perfection for the path that you feel yourself heading down, and even if, tomorrow that path in your heart would change, then that is what you are created for, you are creating yourself and being created in every moment.

Q05: Can you explain the element creator, that piece ? Is that like a specific thing or is that referring to the creation in each specific moment.

V: It is the All-that-Is, it is the creation in every moment, the potential for any and all to exist, has the approval of existence itself, before it can exist. Therefore, anything, including you, that finds them self in existence must already have been approved in its exact configuration.

Q: Uhm, thats kind of powerful.

V: Yes

Q06: So what would be the best way to move forward and have it be enjoyable on my part, so it's not more this pattern of hard work

V: You may release the beliefs that you have to work hard, to achieve what you are hoping for, you may release the beliefs that tell you that you have to work hard, to be worthy of [25:5525:55 audio distortion due to noise] thing coming to you including, the love or phrase or validation of other selves, and you may allow yourself, to move into unconditional joy, joy simply for the sake of being, the celebration of existence.

Why do you believe it has to be hard work ?

Q: There are family patterns there, but I think there is something else.
I am not 100% sure, there is another piece, because I have worked on the family patterns, but there is something else that I can't quite see.

V: When one has a belief that they are not seemingly able to release, there is often accompanying that belief, a benefit, even if the belief itself, seems to be negative or seems to be no longer serving,or if a being claims, that they are aware that the belief is no longer serving, or is negative, they may hold onto a belief for the benefits that it is providing to them, it is possible that your belief that it needs to be hard, or needs to be a struggle, is connected to your desire, to serve, without harm, without harming other selves, and as you allow yourself to let go, of the fear of harming other selves, you will no longer need the protection of the belief of the hard work, which you are allowing, or using as a shield to protect yourself from actually doing the work. The work itself, is not hard, the work itself is stepping out of the way. The work itself it relaxing, it is not actually even work, and you know this because you are working with energy, you are not moving boxes in a warehouse.

Q: ah ha ha ha True story.

V: The energy, or the you, the you that most people would call, a you with a name and identity, the ego self, let's say, if you would choose to use that term. Simply in the case of, beings that have chosen your path of service has one job, and that job is simply to stop being, if temporarily, we are not advocating the annihilation of the ego, in the way that some teachings do, for we believe that you have come to earth, for the experience also of having, individuation, and identity and being in part attached to that, however, in your work, there is nothing to do, for the you that you identify with who thinks it could be hard work.[30:36 30:36]

Q07: Has that be in showing up, so with the writing, the stuff that is coming through, the words that are coming through, that is part of it, that's what that that shift is.
Has some of that letting go of that fear of harming people, started, has it started to release and the effect is that the words that are coming out now are a little bit different. The words that I feel, they almost feel channeled or from like from my higher self. Is that part of that process that your talking about of getting out of your way and it just being easy.

V: Yes, and they are channeled we will confirm that, but it is because the concept of channeling is confused and over glamorized, it is not what beings believe it to be, it is simply, like you say, and like we have been saying, stepping out of way and allowing for your natural capacity which you have for universal or infinite or however you want to label it for consciousness to move through you, to be in service, to otherselves, who perhaps, do not have that same skill or access to it in a direct fashion, all beings, can channel, all beings do channel, but the levels of which that they do and the level of stepping out of the way and having faith in themselves, is varied and beautifully diverse.

Q: Uhm

V: The reason why often material comes through, in a written format, or a private or more private format, is because of your free will, because you are still in a space where you want to have the option to not do this work. However, you would not be in this meeting if you actually wanted to not do this work, because we would not be able to, we would not have permission from your higher self to tell you what we are telling you, in this moment.

Q: Fair enough. ha ha I love that. [32:43 32:43] So it makes me feel more open, more joy in a different way, that feels more true, to be in service that way, it's different, I would like to live in that space, I mean that type of openness.

Q08: So what guidance would there be for how I can start doing that more fully, and consciously without having to stumble through it

V: I guess, in the same way, any child when learning to walk, will perhaps find a way, to motor themselves, around a space, in their own unique way, there are children who crawl and those who scoot, and those who move around, backwards, or pretend that they are snakes, in this same way, at the beginning of this journey, each and every being will have, a different form of meddling through the learning process, it is not a difficult learning process, it is not a lengthy learning process, there are no specific challenges, to the learning process, the only requirement is your choice to be there, it will become, as accelerated as you allow it to be, you will be required to maintain that heart space of remaining in integrity, life will in the moments that you move out of integrity, and you will, but without harming anyone, but you will because it is part of learning process.

Q: ok

V: Life will show you where you are not in alignment, for your connections have certain requirements of you, source has requirements of you to be able to do this work.

Q: Ok.

V: It will be very hard ,for you to maintain behaviors that do not go in this direction, as you make this choice. For behaviors that slow you or perhaps are the things you believe yourself to be able to be afraid of, [35:11 35:11] will feel so badly that you will not do them again, and there is no urgency, there is no rush, there is no pressure, you are not required to take this role on, you are not required to have this experience, it is 100% voluntary, you did arrange for this before, you came to this incarnation, but it is still in every moment 100% voluntary, you are not vulnerable to the concepts of negative beings infiltrating your space, for all of that stuff that you can discover.

Q: I am not vulnerable you said ? Is that correct ?

V: Yes you are not vulnerable, you cannot be vulnerable because it is your yourself introducing fear to allow,

Q: ok

V: Those beings who, negative or positive are never actually negative for they are teachers, to tell you where your weaknesses are, there is no vulnerability, there is simply teaching

Q09: Ok. So going back to the writing and this is a way of basically, controlling how visible it is, visibility feels like a big thing, under the guise of family, religion, that type of thing ?

So it's something that I have worked through for quite a few years, still has some pieces, I fear, how can I, how can I change that, like where is the next piece for that, because I know the work I have done, but it feels like that just being with it, that's fine, and I just want to make sure that it doesn't get me again. Because I don't want to live from that space.

V: Our only suggestion for that would to dive in 100%, you will learn so much, about yourself, and about those around you, of the illusion of those around you, based upon honoring your own true self, if you were to declare or let's say, come out, of this closet that you have put yourself into, you will find that there will be two reactions, reactions of those who will mirror all of your fears, by presenting them to you, this is a beautiful teaching opportunity, that they have for you and a beautiful learning opportunity that you have been provided by them, therefore even if there is a semblance of your relationship it is actually a strengthening of your relationship, even if circumstance seems to say that you are no longer close to or accepted by or loved by those particular beings, they do love you or you would not have stepped into the role of teacher for you, for this experience, the other end of the spectrum will be those who you would have expected, to have taken that teachers role, you would have expected to judge you, however they will not judge you and that will be shocking to your system

Q: ah ha ha

V: Because you will see, that all of that was projection that you had placed onto them, while you were judging them.

Q: Wow, thats powerful.

V: A beautiful learning opportunity for you as well, for you will see where you are [ propogating39:27 39:27] separation, there is no separation, you are safe to be yourself, and you will learn that circumstance is always in your favor.

Q: That was beautiful.

Q10: Is there something, I feel like there is a question that I am supposed to ask but I don't know what the question is, do you by chance know what that question is ?

V: We are not sensing anything specific, at this moment, we see that there is much excitement, no you do not have to give up your life, the comforts and the relationships you have surrounded with will survive, this change, or what seems to be a change, we see that there is some recognition of truth, but it is in some way, decorated with some melancholy or sadness, as you are accepting who you are.

Q: uh huh

V: And yes, that is a phase that will happen, there is a mourning period, for those who always had the hopes that they would be normal or fit in,

Q: ah ha ha True

V: When you discover finally that it is impossible for you to be normal, or fit in, it is a dream or hope that you had, for yourself that you have to give yourself time to let go of, we would like to assure you however that the ideas you have now, about how much you won't be what is considered normal, are greatly exaggerated, we speak from the experience of this vessel, the disappointment that she feels every time she goes to a dinner party and tells people what she does, and they don't ask any further questions at all.

Q: ha ha ha

Q: I think that that's a fair statement. If you have to give up something, it feels like on the other side, it should be pretty much a celebration, or at least something, exciting,

V: Yes, she anticipated people being shocked, and having to [believe, leave ? 43:08 43:08] herself and describe what had happened and tell her story, and no body was interested what so ever.

Q: ah ha ha

V: We laugh because we warned her as well, and yet.

That's too funny.

Q11: So can I ask about my son, he had a, we had a rough ride getting here, getting him to this world, and it was turned out to be an incredible although terrifying experience, in the end working through all of it, and the PTSD and all the stuff that occurred, but my question is, is there anything, his birth was so significant and so tramatic, is there anything that I need to gain, to garner from that I guess would be a better word, that I haven't found yet, that I don't have clarity on.

V: We will tell you what we tell many parents but in your case it is more highlighted, that you children are here not to learn from you, but to teach you, they are here as your colleagues and the soul contracts that you make with them, are made across the veil or the boundary, between the physical and non physical, you son came to you, to give you that experience, to give your the fruits of that experience, in terms of everything that you have done, since then, everything that you have learnt, since then, and to be a partner with you, as you continue your journey.

Q: Is there any advice on how to support him more fully ?

V: It is the same advice we gave your earlier, it is the advice to get out of the way, this does not mean to remove from him, examples of love, as to not wanting to interfere it does not mean to remove to him, examples of what it means to walk in this world, as love, which includes treating others with respect, et cetera, but it does mean, that he will and does have his own highest being who has a plan, who knows the plan, way better than you can, and as often as possible connect with him, as that higher being,

Q12: ok. makes sense, So can I ask, you about, Carrie and the work that we do together, and how this is changing, and shifting for both of us, and right now it is very much on the same page, is that something that is going to stay, is this something that is going to stay on the same page, or is this just for a time and then it will shift again, and we will be doing the work separate.

V: When people ask us about relationships, we always point them to their own knowing of that relationship, and that if they were 100% sure of their direction, in that relationship then they would not have the question in the first place. We will remind you that nothing is permanent, that everything is changing, at all times, that your contracts will all other beings, are mutually beneficial they do have their dates of fulfillment, when it is no longer beneficial or of the highest benefit, to interact in a way that one has interacted, in before, a contract on a soul level, will end, however there are also relationships in which the soul contract is a much more tangled and long winded form, and these relationships through change do change with it, and provide both with more growth. We would say though that often, those are relationships of a familial bond.

Q: ok.

V: And that there is no reason to want something to last longer than it will, we will also say that there is no need to have any form of stress of anxiety on this topic because as soon as it becomes relevant for you to know, the answer to this question, you will automatically within yourself and she will within herself know the answer to this question.

Q: ok.

Q13: Can I ask you about light codes, is that something that you can speak to. Ok. Was that connected to the trip we took to france [49:30 49:30] and england this last summer.
Like and downloading of information but specifically codes, felt important, is that, is there anything that you can add to that ?

V: We have not been asked on this topic before, we are interested to talk about it, locations do have potential of having the ability to activate beings such as yourself, who already as they are, as they have come into this world, are the technology that is needed for bridging forms of information, light codes are one of those forms of information, light language is one of those forms of information, channeled text, or intuition or art of any kind are forms of that information, and yes going to a specific [location??? 50:39 53:39 ] may activate the being that has this potential within them, also it may not, they may choose not to be activated, if a trip has resulted in your suddenly having the desire or the ability to demonstrate or share, or not even share, it may be for a personal use, that you are having these codes and the impulse to express them, or create them, we would say yes it is connected to that experience, that you had that allowed, that connection to become, the light codes themselves, are not working on a level of linear time, therefore, even if one would want to try to translate them into logic, into thinking into a similar communication such as what you are experiencing, in this moment, it would not be possible. This is not information that works on your plane of existence, in the ways that you would think that they would.

Q: If someone chooses not to, if they are in the presence of a place that would activate these codes and they choose not to, could there be varied responses, could one of those responses be agitation or frustration or anger, at the resistance to activating something that was there.

V: Yes, but this would depend on how much there was discord between the beings sense of separation and their higher self.

Q: Oh

V: For there are many of you who have come into existence with specific roles and strong will, which is required for the role, but which can manifest as deep resistance, we would say that in your case, and in many cases, similar, as a child, without the resistance, you had discovered that being different, or knowing what you knew, or having the experiences that you had, was extremely inconvenient.

Q: ah ha ha

V: Therefore you learnt a tool that made it possible for you to be in existence, for you to be in your family or to be in your community or to in your house, or whatever it was, to be at school, and this tool is the same for all of those that have this channel open, and this tool is to block the channel, it is requiring much energy to block that channel, to hold it closed, as you are presented with areas or other beings, or experiences that increase the flow on the other side, of the block that you are holding, your effort, has to match that increased flow to maintain the block, when you are not in alignment with the flow you are going to feel on a physical or emotional level, the consequences of holding on so tightly to that.

Q: That makes sense.

V: The good news is, when the flow is unblocked, all of the sensations that one had when blocking it are relieved, many of the physical ailments, that one had while blocking it are relieved and the natural emotions, or natural states of being, that you always felt that you didn't quite have access to, become yours.

Q: Could the same be said for if you were open to it ?
So if there were codes that you were open to receiving, [55:05 55:05] that is, because you were open it gave you access to other pieces or these emotions or these feelings or expressions of yourself, that you had not had access to before.

V: Yes, and everything that was holding the block will need to be cleared.

Q: Is that why we did so much prep work before we got there, with energy work, was the clear the channel.

V: Yes, you [would ???55:33 55:33 know that].

Q14: Yes that makes sense. So the person that had the resistance, it was a specific piece then that they were resisting, and that would have caused conflict, the idea of conflict since we already covered this, within the group if other people had accepted it, and they had not.

V: No. For each being even in the presence of an activation grid, or other sources or seemingly other sources of energy, the resistance that one is holding against is always only of themselves, so one is not resisting an external energy, one is resisting the energy that was always a part of them in the first place, this is why it is hard to describe in your terms what channeling actually is, for the moment this type of conversation occurs, often what people will deduce is a channeler is channeling their higher self, and the people who deduce this, from a space of ego will assume naturally that this higher self of this other being is equated to this being specifically, and therefore, potentially irrelevant for them.

Q: ok

V: However all consciousness is one, all higher beings is the 'all that is', source, there is no actual differentiation, between any source, there is only one source, the flavor that comes through that source is individuated by the specific constructs of the being that is choosing to bring that through, but the source is always the same, it will sound different, it will act different, it will perhaps have different information, conflicting information at times, because there actually are no conflicts, as we expressed, but when we were speaking of one resisting and therefore having feelings of resistance, etc, what is actually happening is they are resisting the 'all that is' that is them, they are not actually able to block the non resistance [ 58:06 58:06 ] of any other being, and as you move forward, you will find that your beliefs that someone else can affect your vibration, will fall from you, or your beliefs that you are an empath, will fall from you, you will still have access to the feelings of otherselves, you will still have access potentially even to the thoughts of otherselves, however you will not take it on in the same way, because releasing the belief that their or the seeming their experience is connecting to you in a way that can influence you negatively, will allow that connection to not influence you negatively, this is the same concept we spoke about being protected and safe from a potential of negative entities, it is simply a question of deciding that that belief does not serve you, which is does not and releasing that particular resistance, to yourself that you may choose to hold as you go through the process of releasing, for example.

We are not sure if this answered the question about the specific group dynamics.

Q: It does, it's very helpful. It's nice confirmation as to the bigger picture of it all, and also the existence of the light codes and how they show you, are they just, how are they held, I know it's held in energy, but is that even a question that would apply to this ?

V: We believe it's unnecessary.

Q: Ok.

Q15: So with these different types of codes and how they show up, they, say you activate or tap into this particular light code on this trip and then for instance, you go and it speak, they can be transmitted in different ways ? Would that be a correct assumption.

V: Yes, and remember that energy is absorbed and integrated by your being, and upgrades your own being, automatically and on it's own, and remember too please, that the light code was never separate from you,

Q: oh Yes

V: The permission slip to go to that location that has a vibratory complex, or in your culture is claimed to have this vibratory complex, to have the experience of downloading a light code there, but all of that experience came from within your consciousness, and therefore was yours to begin with.

Q: So you could activate also any code, well you could, you could activate any code from anywhere, as long as you could match, tap into that vibration [1:01:25 1:01:25]

V: Yes, you can literally do anything,if you can match that vibration. And you can.

Q16: What is the easiest way to figure out, what is vibration is that you are looking for ?

V: There are senses beyond the human body, that are still physical, but are not visible, are non auditory, are non tactile et cetera, we believe that this information, that we have just given you of the knowing of a non physical, physical body, that is part of your body, your bodies, will allow you to more easily sense into that, and find it within yourself, does this in some way make sense ?

Q: I can feel it even if I can't consciously wrap all the pieces up in a nice bow, I feel like if I sit with it, I will be able to find it.

V: Yes, that is our intention, yes.

Q: Ok, yes, that makes sense then.

V: If you have one more question we will take it.

Q: What is my work with the, like what would be the information I would need in connection with the divine feminine energy right now, and how to support that.

V: We are reluctant to speak of the polarity between the feminine and the masculine, if only because for us, it is the same

Q: uh huh

V: We understand that there are nuances in energy, for energy can take and does take every form, to divide energy into two categories, and to then especially on the planetary sphere which you are residing, that does have a polarity, a visible polarity, between these archetypes, to divide energy into these categories, prolongs the illusion of conflict, in your circumstantial experience, we are aware of the perception of history, and the archetypes playing roles, we are aware that this is shifting, we will tell you that your perception and the perception of many who are working in that direction of what you have called the divine feminine, are perceiving of an actual change that is required ad an actual shift that is occurring, and so we will not discredit or negate that, at all, however the shift that is occurring, is not so much the reemergence of the divine feminine, or as you are labeling this concept, it is the envelopment by what you are calling, the divine feminine, of the all, it is much more so the energy of the mother, as in the creator, than it is the energy of polarity between masculine and feminine,

Q: Ok

V: This energy, of the mother, loves both her female and male children in the same way, she can see the value in both of their characteristics, she can see the value in the power of her masculine offspring and the gentleness and the sensitivity of her feminine offspring, with unconditional love. So what is reemerging is not so much what was at one time which was a balance of power towards the feminine, but it is a neutralization [this ______1:06:34 1:06:34] in favor] of oneness and in favor of the integration within each being of oneness, in order to support this, we see the possibility of the removal of labels and the reintroduction of the mother energy, the unconditional love energy, in service to all.

Q: This is why my feelings for it have changed, would this be correct because of perceiving this

V: yes

Q: ok, that makes sense. Thank you,

V: Thank you. It has been an absolute pleasure talking with you, we have been very excited by this conversation, and we are very excited about your path.

Q: Thank you it has been wonderful.

V: The light of a thousand suns. Anainai

Q: Gratitude.