[ Session begins 10:41 10:41] audible presence, not words]

V: Greetings and salutations to you this evening, it is our pleasure to meet with you at this time.

Q: Greetings to you.

V: We are looking forward to hearing what it is that you would like to inquire into, at this time to know more of yourself, at this time.

Q: Do I ask a question now ?

V: Yes

Q01: oh, I was wondering if I could talk a little bit about the last year, or something, I have been quite emotionally disturbed, and feeling a lot of sadness, and uh energy, and confusion and I don't know quite what to do with it, or what it is, and I feel a little like a meaning of life, and yeah.

V: We would like to know what your feelings are about emotions, if you have a good relationship with your emotions, and if you are in the space now of allowing all emotions to be or, if emotions are the cause of some discomfort in your state of being.

Q: I don't know what to answer.

V: We will ask the question in a different manner, or we will take your answer as the answer to the question.

Q: uhm

V: It is our suspicion that your relationship currently with emotions is asking, for you to allow and accept more of yourself, as you said this is a newer form of emotional reactivity in your being, something you are not familiar with, and when something arises in ones, experience especially in their [ external, internal 13:52 13:52 excuse us, experience]
that is not familiar to them, it is very probable that the experience is arising because one has arrived at a level in which they are able to surpass their previous levels, in the case of emotions, in each and every one of the beings on your planet, there is an emotional system, that governs one state of being, that allows one to know how close or far they are to their true self, and if you emotions have been turbulent, in recent times, it is because you true self is revealing more of itself to you, and asking you to make the necessary changes, the changes may not in your case be, circumstantial changes that need to be made, however they may be the changes of accepting oneself including ones emotions, and what one does not understand fully, more so.

Is there some circumstantial situation that has triggered these emotional changes ?

Q: Well yeah, maybe in contact with another human being, I came in contact with some more emotions, in a strange way, than I have before.

V: Yes it is possible that a relationship that has come into your field has, activated the part of your higher being, that is requiring you to now look at these emotions in this way, it is possible that the emotions have been dormant within your physical vehicle for a long period of time, and they are coming to the surface now, to be healed, perhaps there is not yet the clear, [route,root ?? 16:10 16:00], that you may take to heal them but, you inquiring upon them is already a step in the right direction.

Q: I have the feeling that some of this, is, has activated a deep sense of not being able to love myself fully.

V: Yes, often emotions are the result of that form of inquiry or discovery, we have seen that humans have this capacity through conditioning, to find themselves in a position where, they do not love themselves, we would like to correct this concept in saying that, it is not that you do not love yourself, [ if is that you do not love being yourself, you, 16:58 16:58 excuse me ] You do not love, not being yourself, so it is a call for you to become your true self, whom you automatically love, what you do not love, is not being your true self.

Q02 : My question is, how to come to love myself, or, I think it's difficult.

V: We have suggested in the past, to use the beautiful skills of imagination, that you have been given, by having a human brain, that is capable of imagining anything that is possible, to imagine oneself a separate in this moment, but only in imagination, from the self that one is attempting to love, and in doing so, imagine that secondary self, the one that one is trying to love, as an innocent and perfect being, the being that you have always wanted yourself to be, and in every moment, of every day, to treat that being, which is you, as if they are the most important being on the planet, an stand beside them in their choices, even when their choices make no sense to your logical brain, so if this inner being, is in the middle of a conversation with let's say your accountant, for example, and suddenly wants to at all costs, leave that conversation, because it feels overwhelmed by the situation, or it feels, like it is not the right situation for it, or even, it just does not like the way the accountant is dressed, whatever reason that you with your logical mind could say is not significant, we would say to stand by this inner being and [ a second, asseconde 19:10 19:10] it's requests, above all else, this may mean standing up in the middle, of the conversation and leaving the accountants office, taking a pause in the bathroom, and talking with oneself, but not saying ' pull yourself together go back in the office, what is wrong with you', No, saying ' I am here with you, I am here with you' this is what, self love actually is, it is accepting the inconvenience, of the perfection of the self, the inconvenience, of how perfect the self actually is, for yourself in that moment, knows, that is it not the right, time space, to be in that office with that accountant, and it is telling you very clearly, what is necessary in that moment, but your mind has been conditioned, to not want to seem rude, or to not want to seem strange, or a million, other conditions, that prevent you from getting out of your chair and taking the time with yourself that is needed, the self is perfect, but it is inconvenient in a conditioned world. [20:29 20:29]

Those of you who are hearing the call now, to be with yourselves, to become your true selves, will face inconvenience, however, the inconvenience you face will allow the things that are not for you, to fall away from your lives, from your circumstance, whether this is relationships, or situations, or

Q03: So but maybe, how it's difficult to discriminate between what is right and wrong, I don't know (what) to do,

V: Right or wrong according to who ?

Q: ha ha yeah,
Yes, it is right according to my higher self ? or not, or I don't know. I am confused.

V: We would say, that in a moment of emotional equilibrium, not in a moment of emotional imbalance, in either direction, to practice with this, concept of listening to oneself radically, and watch how it feels uncomfortable, and watch how it feels so good to know that you have listened to yourself, you will feel something that perhaps you have never felt, you will feel seen and heard, by yourself, this is what true self love is pointing those of you who are pointed in that direction at this time,

Q: Maybe I am, I am not sure that I can listen to myself,

V: You do not have to succeed at, accomplishing this all if the time, you may start small, start slow, with small experiments, in your day to day life, you can know that you are not listening to your self, when you have the word 'should' in your vocabularies, so if you 'should' be picking up that laundry that has fallen on the floor, then it is not your higher self telling you to do so,

Q: uhm,.

V: Should is a good indication that you are heading in the direction of the mind, instead of the self, other good indications are feeling bad, you may have contact with relationships with people, whom a part of you knows is not good for you, who you would not even suggest to a friend, to have a relationship with, and yet you put yourself in these situations, you continue to have relationships, with people who you already know are not good for you. This is not a criticism this is what many of you do, for you are conditioned to do so, and you are all believing, that is it the right thing, or the good thing, or the higher thing to do, to be able to face your problems head on, if they are problems which they are not, but face these emotions head on and some how, transcend them, without feeling them but, if you have the feeling, why not find what is right for, or, you can, we do not believe you when you say it is difficult, we believe that you believe it is difficult, but we know it is not,

Q: I just think that I am not used to listening to myself,

V: Yes you will need practice, and patience and compassion for yourself.

Q: hmm, n

V: Many talk about inner child healing, it is something along these lines, if it helps to imagine, yourself as a small child, perhaps at the age before, you have memory, perhaps if it helps to find a photo of yourself, at that age, and talk to the photo and say, in this moment, what do you want, do you want to return that phone call, to that person that always bothers you, or do you want to ignore them in this moment. [25:25 25:25] I imagine the child will say, why would we waste our time calling that person back, the child has so much wisdom for you.

Q: Yeah, I think one of my problem is that, I sensed into it, that I am not deserving the love or that I desire,

V: Yes, That you are, it has to start with you, this is a beautiful conversation to be having, because we believe that you will understand that this love will and can only come from you, and then will follow onwards from other-selves, but you won't even mind, at that point, the ironic thing is the child already loves you, unconditionally, and they are waiting and yes throwing tantrums, and yes letting you feel emotions, that are very powerful, and will get more so, as they know that you are ready, to start loving yourself truly, but it is a arc, it is an arc with a peak, [26:59 26:59] that you are coming to, that you are coming to understand, and there is, relief and balance on the other side of this emotional arc, for once you start listening to yourself truly, the emotional flairs, will become less so, because you will catch them before they come to their apex, you will listen to yourself, far earlier, before some circumstance or catalyst becomes too much for your inner being,

Q: ok sounds good, I'll try

Q04: Is that, I have difficult in finding meaning, will I find the meaning when I find this more self love,

V: You have difficulty finding the meaning of self-love ?

Q: no the meaning in life,

V: Does there need to be a meaning ? [28:14 28:14]

Q: Yes

V: and if there is no meaning, what occurs ?

Q: I don't know, I think I always lived because I think I had a purpose ? I has something I should do

V: Should

Q: Yeah ah ha should. There was something I should do.

V: Yes and it is the mind telling you that there is something you should do, if you check in with this inner being, now what are they saying to that word 'should' ?

Q: They are saying that is it not right

V: They are saying, ' Quiet you'.

The loving thing about the meaning of life, is that you can assign it whatever it is that you would like to give it, you have full capacity to choose whichever meaning you choose, so what one needs to find not is the meaning of life, which can be of any faction, any type, what one needs to find is faith in the meaning of life that they have chosen.

You can decide that life means, the most fantastic thing that you can imagine, but if you will not believe, your own creation of that, meaning, you will have, less of a direct walk, down that route, you will have less of, less solid footing and you will be faced with and have to overcome the emotion and sensation of doubt, luckily, the sensation of doubt, brings one to faith, what would you have the meaning of life be ?

Or your personal meaning be ?

Q: That I am capable or good enough, of serving people.

V: Well you already are, that is not questionable, you would not exist, at all, if you were not required to exist exactly as you are, even in this state that you believe to be less, in this moment, you believe yourself at this moment, to not being able to be in service, but, even this version of you, this moment of you, is exactly as it needs to be, it is what creation has created for this moment, it would not exist, it could not exist, you did not create it, in the way that your mind is telling you that you did,

Q: uhm

V: You do not know the impact that you have on the other beings that you interact with, you do not know what it is that creation is using you for, creation is always using you, once you take ownership and knowledge of this co-creation that you have with creation, 31:41 31:41, your decision to add a meaning of your life, that of service becomes a lot more fun, for it is conscious creation, but whether or not you are worthy of it, is not for dispute,

Q: uhm, so if I have no faith in what I am doing.

V: What do you want to be doing ?

Q: hum, well that's the service.

V: What service ? to help people, help people to do what ?

Q: uhm help people to recover ?

V: recover from ?

Q: Yeah that's another question, in my daily work I work with traumatized people,

V: Yes

Q: Especially women, who has been very much physical or sexual abused, and I think I have a big thing in being able to help them, or help them recover, to be of service, in that way.

V: Beautiful, and are you not doing that already ?

Q: Yeah, but maybe I have my doubts in if I am doing ok, or I could do better, or I can do differently, to help.

V: The people you have helped, have they had, lives, that have been changed after, your impact upon them ?

Q: Yeah some of them mostly, I think

V: And have the people that they have impacted, had better lives because the healing that has occurred in these beings, has rippled on to them no longer, having behaviors that were then, transferring on to others, that were of a negative nature, yeah, correct and so, how many or who, would need to tell you, that you are doing a good job, before you felt you were,

Q: And I know, maybe again it's the inner feeling, that's not a

V: Yes, it is,

Q: I don't have the faith in that.

V: The acknowledgement you are looking for is, you own, feeling good enough....no voice will arrive, that will tell you, that you are good enough,

Q: no, I have to find it inside

V: And your service will augment, as soon as you find it, for this doubt that you carry, is not even allowing you to see the reality, of the women, but not only the women, we see the children, that you are helping by helping these women. We see these children that would have had other mothers, these children who would have had, other childhoods, because these women, whether they are mothers now, or in the future, could not have been present with them, all because of a kind word, or a glance, or some tool or strategy that you helped them through.

Q: So maybe, so there is nothing else, I should do differently or

V: No there is nothing that you should do differently, we would suggest that you find, what is is that your inner being, wants by listening, for they have great plans for you, to help even more to truly be of service and to spread this love that you are now learning, even further, even further and more broadly, and more brightly, but there is nothing physical for you to do, except to work, upon this, and we would not call it work, work is not the correct word.

Q05: Have fun with this new relationship that you are cultivating, imagine you are dating yourself, imagine you are suddenly the foster parent of this inner child, imagine it however it feels right for you to imagine, it but realize that you are now, in relationship, the most important soulmate relationship, twin flame, whatever you want to call it, that you will ever have in your life, that all is forgiven, that it is a fresh slate to begin this process together, to get to know this being.

Q: Yeah, It's difficult because I have been searching outside, all my life, I think, so, for the acknowledgement or the yeah, so it's not work, I try to have fun,

V: Well it has brought you here, it has brought you to the point of no return, you complete this work and the rest of your life will be without a search, the rest of your life will be a hundred percent in service to others, because there will be nothing left to complete, you will know you are whole, you will know you are perfect exactly as you are, even if no one, agrees, all you have to do it agree with yourself, who else is going to do it ?

How could anyone else do it if even your don't agree with yourself, we do have faith forever that in your circumstantial life, of course, you will have people who agree with yourself, and you already do, you have people in your life today, who love you, the real you, the inner you, unconditionally, they can see more of you than you are currently allowing yourself to see, and you will notice them now, more often, these are probably people who have triggered you, in the past in some way, because they are, too nice, or too perhaps even annoying,

Q: uhm, I think I always go afraid when people showed that they liked me, in that way, then I ran away. From them, so that's a bit of a

V: That's perfect because you were not ready, and now you are,

Q: uhm

V: But it is nice to have a team, of beings who are already on the same page, as your inner being, they will appear,

Q: ok, and I will stop running away from them,

V: Yes. [40:24 40:24]

Q: Thank you.

Q05: Well I have another question, it's about [??? 40:38 40:38 ] about how balance between free will and surrender to things ?

V: Is the question how do I balance between free will and surrender ?

Q: Yeah, because something, I don't know if, if I do act on thing, or I have faith in things, and let things happened, for me, do sometimes I struggle with the balance, if there is something, a problem or things. Do I act, or do I have faith and surrender to what is ?

V: Yes, the question of free will and or surrender, paradox is common because there is an element missing, to the logic of surrender, and to the logic of free will, we will attempt to explain it, in a way that makes sense, at this time.

True surrender, is the acknowledgement, that All That Is, is as it is, because it is what is wanted in the moment., If you take this sentence, on its own, you may expect that one would sit on their hands and do nothing, at all times, for whatever was happening, in the moment, is what was wanted in the moment, by creation. However, the aspect that is missing from this sentence is that All That Is includes, the free will of the being experiencing or viewing, or witnessing, the situation underhand, therefore one is not only surrendering to the situation, but to ones' one own authentic reaction to the situation, if within you, when faced upon a problem as you called it, or circumstance, you within yourself, know that there is some action that you would like to take, or that feels right to take in that moment, if it not opposing of surrender, what it is is acknowledging that you are a part of all of creation, and that your natural and not created by you reaction to a situation is in fact part of creation as well.

So when action arises through you, it is also the will of creation, freewill is a part of surrender, because free will does not come from something outside of creation, free will comes from within creation, it is only a part of creation as well, the flip side of this paradox, is that perhaps one thinks then that oh, if I have free will over everything within creation, I can do whatever I want. however, this is not the case, for the actions that we are discussing as free will, are those actions, that come as impulses through you, in your most aligned version of self.

So when one sees, for example abuse occurring in from of their eyes, and has the natural reaction to intervene at that abuse, it is not opposing the surrender to 'the what is' in that moment, it is actually surrendering 'to ones own impulse' to intervene in that abused situation.

Does this make sense ? [44:40 44:40]

Q: Yeah I think so, I think I need to hear it again, sometime but, I think I, yeah, I think it makes sense. I need to concentrate a little about it.

V: Would you like to give us an example of the last time this situation occurred, so that we could perhaps plug this concept into it on a more practical level ?

Q: yeah, then if I, the person I spoke about earlier, if I had the impulse to do some action, to try to help, if for there was help, or I should, I was conflicting if I should write or phone because I could help him, or I should just wait and see what, would come up, then do it.
I don't know if that makes sense. So.

V: Yes, we would like to point to the fact that your thinking is involving many 'shoulds'

Q: Ah ha,

V: and so to, from this point forward, be aware of that. As most of these 'shoulds' are not your true self. Not that the action perhaps is inaccurate, but the place from the thinking about the action, in coming from, is inaccurate, for you. And so in the circumstance that you outlined at this time, the fact that you did not call, or write, is an indication, that that was your act of free will to not call or write.

You did not actually feel like calling or writing, you thought perhaps that you should. You exercised your free will to not call or write, and in fact that was the correct action, whether or not it has anything to do with surrendering, at this point is irrelevant. Whether or not you are not calling or not not writing, has some sort of ripple effect on to the future, is inevitable. However, your job is not to control the future, your job is to follow your own inner guidance, moment to moment, knowing that your intention is for good, most actions will happen, when brought forth through free will, on their own, you will find yourself on the telephone before you even thought of it.

And we know in your experience, that there have many times, that you have been finding yourself calling a friend or calling a person, that you knew needed to hear from you, without thinking about whether you should or shouldn't. And it was just happening, and it was the right thing to do.

Q: Uhm, But the other way around, I also feel that I've hee ha
I felt that I should, I felt the urge to do it, but something said I should not do it. If that makes sense ?

V: Yes,

Q: It was my, I don't know, the things I should or shouldn't do I got, yeah I don't know.

V: This is a perfect example of when you can take the photo of you as a child, and ask them. And you will have immediately and answer and the answer will not always be the one that you want to hear. Self love means following the answer, of that guidance, because that answer will be pure, and it will be true and it will be your true inner guidance, telling you, what is it to do in a situation, it's like having your own oracle card, and it always gives you the right answer.

Q: Yeah. I don't know if it makes sense, sometimes it's because when I want to do something, I feel that the society or this structure or what I have learned, I should not do that.

V: Yes.

Q: Yeah

V: This is conditioning, and this will break, as you slowly go against it, you will find that you will be, you will find yourself doing things that you thought, that you could never have done, and ironically no one will notice, you will think the world will crumble around you, and the world will adapt to your new being yourself. It is quite a miracle to watch it happen for you.

Q: uhm, well I am looking forward to that.

V: As you should.

Q: ha ha, ah well practice. Ok. Ah. I am just looking at my questions.

Q06: What is meant by maybe you have spoke about it, but what is meant by 'What you will you shape and what you mirror you become.

V: We can speak to the first part of that statement, for your will, your intention, we would call it intention at this point, intention is what creates reality, it is not even as much vibration as it is intention, so intention plus vibration creates reality, or reality as you know it, for it it your choice, there are infinite realities, there are infinite perspectives on infinite realities and what you choose is what you will see, in your reality, the most powerful practices are based upon intention, it is interesting how infrequently humans use intention, to it's capacity. This is also why we asked you what you would like your meaning to be, what would you like your purpose to be, because as soon as you voice what is is that you would like, you are already moving in that direction because you hear it, in your own voice, reality hears it, and holding a steadfast intention will bring you to that result.

We do not know the source of the quote: We do not feel there is significance in the second part of it, what you mirror you become, for you become only what you choose to become.

Q: Uh ok. Yeah.

Q07: I have been meditating for a long time, very what do you call it, frequently, now and I have a desire, what you call it, to experience this feeling, of bliss or something but, something is blocking me I think, I don't, it's difficult to, maybe it's because I want it too much, but so of, I think that, I have difficult to reach a state in my meditation that I would like to this aware of awareness, totally. this ah, can you.

V: [54:27 54:27] Yes, we believe that the first part of your statement is very useful, in that you have a desire to reach this state of bliss, we believe that it is on the way for you, it is arriving, we however would suggest that you let go of the second and third parts of your statements where you claim that it is difficult, or you claim that there is a block for it is not difficult there is no block, aside from the one you are creating by claiming with your intention, that there is, or ever could be. There is a school of thought, to teach children now that when they cannot accomplish something, they add the word 'yet' at the end of the sentence, and so instead of saying, I cannot do this math example, they say, I cannot do this math example yet, and we think this is very clever, for it allows one to be honest about the situation that is being presented to them and so they are not lying to themselves, about their current situation, and therefore they are honoring their experience, in their human vessel, however, with the knowledge that, what they are desiring is clearly on its way and definitely will arrive, in the same way a child who cannot add 2 digits together, eventually can, and goes on to become a neurosurgeon.

Q: uhm

V: You have been meditating a long time and you have not reached this bliss state yet but that does not mean that you do not hang up this call and reach it, today. There is no block,

Q: ah ha There is no block.

V: No.

Q: no. ok.

V: Do you have one more question for us ?

Q08: uh yeah, I have a question about, I very often [56:55 56:55] especially last year, feel a big pressure on my chest, so I was wondering how to balance, maybe this body complex they call it, because of this pressure on my chest is so annoying.

V: Yes. This is the same energy that has been moving you emotionally, in it's physical manifestation, you may, practice some somatic tools, of feeling that pressure, focusing upon it and asking it questions, what does it want to tell you. What action can you take in this moment ? To relieve it, or not even to relieve it, but, to honor it, to give it what it wants, often where there are physical manifestations, or discomforts, it is natural to want to remove them or escape from there, however what they want, is to be honored, and heard and it does require perhaps in a meditation taking some time to ask it what is wants, and what it wants from you, as it is in the area of the chest, it is in the area of you solar plexus center, which would be your will, which is one of the conversations that we have already had today, and your heart center, which is where your surrender, will come from, it is the exact theme that you are working through at this time, and by honoring it, you will find physical relief, from it as well.

Q: Sounds good, thank you.

V: Thank you.

Q: I don't think I have any more questions.

V: We are thoroughly pleased with this interaction today, we have so much optimism for you and for your future, we see the service that you have been providing, and we see the service that you will be providing, we are although it should not matter, thinking you are very worthy, of everything that is coming to you for you are in a space where you are able to now give it to yourself.

Q: Uhmmm

V: And with that, we will leave you all the love and the light of the infinite creator, which is you and wish you the most marvelous of sleeps, and a wonderful rest of your time.

Anainai.

Q: Thank you very much.