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[Chatting before meeting and welcoming during first 7 minutes, not relevant to transcription]

V: [ 09:00 9:00] Good Evening, we are very excited to be with you here today, we will use a word that the vessel does not have preference for even though she does not have preference for we will say that we expect this session will be very juicy.

We are interested in a variety of questions that we can see will arise this evening, and we are hoping that you derive the same joy and excitement from the answering of these questions or the reflection upon these questions, or the mirroring or your own answers of these questions at this time. There is a very potent energy in your field at this moment in time, it is quite a high energy, many of you are able to accept this energy, many of you are basking and enjoying this energy, and we would like to remind you of these good points for you are so skilled at focusing on the times when the energy is swinging in the other direction of the pendulum on the what you would call on the negative scale of being tired, lethargic and/or with physical ailments during your processing and integration periods.

Please attempt to enjoy, also these moments of high energy and high frequency that are gifted to you, from the magnetic frequency, that you are part of on your planetary sphere.

It is a good day.

We are done with our short and high velocity introduction and so will open the session to allow you to have time to bask in your own essences, bask in our shared experience, and us this now moment in what is labeled as time to experiment and express yourself, in whatever ways you see fit?

H: Ok we have some questions. Gloria would you like to unmute yourself and ask your question please.
Q01:[12:50 12:50] Yes I wanted to ask about the use of psychedelics in dealing with severe trauma. Ah, severe depression, or PTSD, I just wanted to have your feedback about it.

V: [13:17 13:17] Psychedelic drugs in the way you are referring to them are one of the many ways, to bypass and override a conditioned mind, a mind that has been traumatized a spirit body emotional mental complex that has been traumatized or believes itself to be traumatized is mostly believing itself to be traumatized within the mind itself, it is not to say that a body had not been abused, or emotions have not been affected, but it is to say, that the recollection or these events is housed in the mind far more than it normally is housed in body or the emotional body, the access to a bypass route for a mind, is at times beneficial to the being that does not find a solution or permission slip to bypass their mind, on their own, or seemingly on their own, for nothing is ever done on ones own, and so may and can and is used in this fashion, however, one must be aware that the purity and source of many of the psychedelic enhancing substances that are on your planet at the moment are not of a very high quality caliber, and one may experience as traumatic an experience in their psychedelic trance as the had experienced in their normal consciousness state, for there is no difference. We would not counsel this form of treatment to anyone outside of those who already have a internal desire to experience this treatment within their experience on this planet, and so, we will remain with the counsel that this treatment is only for those to whom it is relevant, and in the case for those of whom it is relevant, it can be equally relevant to have a full healing from the traumatic experience, which was the goal of the assumption of such a substance, or if their choice is to have a less than whole healing experience, or even a negative experience based upon this choice, all of these avenues, are at all times, available to an entity for there own choosing, in simpler terms it means, that when you enter into any endeavor with the expectation and knowing that you will be healed, due to that course of action, then there is the utmost probability that that will be the case unless ones higher guidance or pre chosen guidance [16:37 16:37] determines, that that is not the most beneficial experience for that entity to have, your experience will always be what is most beneficial to you at any point in time, based upon the learning curve that you have decided for yourself moment to moment and before which is not actually before, but during the decision to make the incarnation path.

Q: Thank you.

H: Kelly I believe you have the next question, please proceed.

Q02: [17:34 17:34] I want to ask a question about when we go through changes, so when we step into a new version, and we have made a change, is there a process of integration that we go through, where we anchor in the change, more firmly, and if so what is the best way to navigate this integration process?

V: [18:11 18:11] Within you question there is the assumption of more which implies the assumption of less, you cannot anchor in something more firmly, than any other state of what is being currently anchored in, there is a period of integration, yes only because there is linearity in your experience, one may eliminate the period of integration if one chooses if that seems relevant, however, we do see that it is amongst your culture, to allow oneself a period of rest between significant what you are calling changes, within a spirit body mind complex, and this is the gentlest way to include the emotional aspects of ones being, we would have you remember however, that the emotional aspect of your being, is a call to further change, and that factor within yourself will never no matter the amount of integration be shut off completely, for if it were you would not be whole, you would not continue to exist, if your emotional factor was subdued, in the way that many of you humans claim that you would like it to be, you would no longer be alive. So we would say, be gentle with yourself, but at the same time, do not place importance on this time of integration, do not place importance on being gentle, as if there could be something wrong with any course of action that you may want to take, and take the action that feels truest and most loving to you and those around you.

V: Thank you. We also suggest you listen back to one of your own questions, in an earlier session, in which you asked a very similar query and if it was not you it was another version of you, who asked this query, the answer to that question still applies.

H: Has that answered your question Kelly ? Thank you. Karissa, I believe you have a question you may ... Karissa are you present right now ?

Q03: Yes. My question is loose, the channel has orchestrated an event for Nov 11th, and my question, in the past, and my question is even though we know it's a date like any other, it seems like a good excuse to gather and meditate with a shared intention, and I am curious what you would share, on these kinds of dates, where the masses have put weight on it, it being special in some way, and what we, how we can approach it, hmm for service to everyone. Is the question clear ?

V: [ 23:08 23:08] This same concept has arisen twice, since we have been communicating in this way, the first was, on August 8th, of this year, which was what you call the Lionsgate portal and the second was a fun conversation we had last week talking about the significance and/or potency of your festivities such as halloween, when the collective comes together with a shared intention there is a potency based upon your ability to suggest and be influenced, by one another, this potency can be used, in many ways, it is often used, against the collective itself, through manipulation and it can be used and is beginning to be used by the collective itself, in unification, the event you are speaking of is part of this unification endeavor that is not exclusive to the beings the you currently speak of, it is in fact something that is unifying of many portions and nexuses of the collective and the greater collective, it is because of the intention and the enthusiasm and the anticipation that humans are able to invest their emotional energy which is at times and most often the most potent energy that they have and so, the simple intention of sitting on this date, or on any date, in a group and meditating on a collective concept or a collective field does make it more potent, and more potentially functional towards ones intention, you know in your history, of beings harnessing this power both for and against what is labelled as good. We have been invited by the channel to host the meditation that she is intending on having on the date and we believe we will host it if there is some way to have a partial or different form of presentation which is something we are currently working on. We encourage each and every one of you as you are nexus points in your own webs of integration with other beings, other selves, to at all times and not just on this specific date but we are referring to this specific date, be the leader that you have come here to be, the be the point of light that you have come here to be, and to offer at all times, but on that date as well, your particular flavor of consciousness, out into the world with the intention of unification and honoring all of the other flavors of consciousness that you are encountering on a daily basis. This does have effect, and it is 'and we do not like to use this word because it has significance in your language', required.

Q04:[ 27:34 27:34] Is there additional benefit to gathering physically, than just connecting, with intention, non-physically to other beings, to other humans ?

V: The additional benefit would be in you feeling more comfortable, being with other physical beings if that is the case for you, you are able to communicate, extremely freely without your physical vessels, your technology has surpassed the beliefs you have of your own capabilities and you may lean on them and you may lean on that, until you are 100 % sure of your capabilities. But there is an emotional aspect of gathering physically in community, there is a hormonal aspect of gathering together physically in community that allows your physical vehicle to participate in the experience more fully than it would do if it were distanced, also on an energetic level you are able to participate with those you are physically near by, on a more visceral level, than you are if you are not in the same physical coordinations, however you also talking about an experience that does not have location, and here are some of you for whom a physical presence is actually a distraction, from that knowing, there are those of you, who have had experiences and continue to experiment with experiences, of very physical, non physical relationships, and the the first physical in that sentence is the physical that is non physical, we do not know how to explain this any further, there is no language and we are seeing a being now, please.

[30:17 30:17] Have we answered the question ?

Q: Yes.

V: Yes, Thank you.

H: Petra I believe you have a question, could you unmute yourself and go ahead please.

Q: Hello Guys

V: Hello.

Q05: First quick question, the strong energies I feel on and off during you channelling, is that you directly connecting to me or is that something else?

V: Yes. We are directly connecting to all of you present, you have in some manner, by your presence, allowed for this form of connection to occur, it is beautiful we are very deliberate in accessing when the channel and invitation is open and when is it not and are able to tailor our energetic exchange based upon the needs of or desires of each of you, there is more in these transmissions that is non physical, non verbal, than there is on verbal level.

Q: Yes I feel that, thank you.

Q06: The second question is about death. I would really love to have your take on what we humans call ghosts, what I perceive as being ahh a being that is not able to go back to source but it's somewhat trapped, and uhm, yeah trapped and that provokes fear inside of me that I may not be able to go back to source, and be trapped somewhere, when I die, could you please uhm, give me some insights, about that.

V: Yes.

[33:02 33:02] Each of you has a physical vessel and other vessels that we have called at times physical as well but non visible, non sentient, non, non sensible, with your senses, so you cannot hear or see of touch or taste or smell these aspects of oneself, when you die, it is only your physical vessel that has returned to it's organic matter and detached from these other aspects of you, the most common experience after such a time is the being awaking from the constraints of their physical vessel, to the opportunity to choose what to do next. You are in all effects a ghost right now, that has a physical vehicle attached to it, there are beings who, whether by traumatic ends to the physical vehicle or emotional stubbornness, during their life and slightly thereafter, choose to remain on your planet in the only fashion that they are then capable of doing so, which is they remain as they were, but without mind which is very connected to brain and without body, they are still able to move and as there are no constraints on your energetic body, they are still able to express as there are no constraints on your expressive body and they are still able to access [ 35:19 35:19] the portion of consciousness, that they were, accessing, in their physical body, however they do not have access to memory in the way that you understand it or physical location, or any of the things that you associate with being human, we assure you however that this is a choice, it is a misinformed choice, perhaps it is not a most beneficial to that entity choice, at the time however, as all choices are in the long run it is the most beneficial choice, for it is still aiding in the lessons of that entity and the lessons that, that entity chose to have in this lifetime and outside of this lifetime in this case.

You cannot accidentally become a ghost. And the word ghost is not exactly applicable, we would not like to label these beings as ghosts, as the connotation with the word ghosts, is unfortunately very tainted, by those, who have chosen to continue the path of stubbornness in their new experience of being non physical, however remaining on a physical planet. There are many many beings of the same energy, that you will never have haunting a house or causing some sort of energetic mischief, if others, but those are the ones that, get the most scream time.

[laughter]

and make for the most entertaining films. There is a relevance to that experience, as there is a relevance to all experiences, but your fear is the actual question here and it is unfounded, we are hoping that this is soothing news to you for there is much misinformation.

Q: Yes because for me this sounds absolutely not preferable, but it has kind of an energy of being at the mercy of something preventing me from going back to source. But as you said, apparently it's a choice, I can't really wrap my mind around that as I would love to go back to source, after transitioning but uhm yeah if it's in the highest good.

V: We will give you an example:

A young man took his life, for that was the choice that he felt was the most appropriate in that moment, and was his souls path to take that action and learn from it no matter how positive or negative he or anyone around him could see it. With his new sight of a higher vision, he had the realization that his action damaged tremendously the trajectory of his mother and brother’s life path. He made the choice to return in whatever way possible to the earth plane to find a way to communicate with his mother and brother so that he could somehow ‘right’ what he then perceived to be wrong. He had success in this endeavor and was then able to choose differently.

For you, this would not be a choice, and so we say that it is possible and we feel beneficial for you to allow this topic, to vaporize from your experience on your mental plane.

Q: Yes that is good, thank you so much.

H: Kirsten I know you had a question, I am not sure if you had one and in another it was answered, or if you still had a question to ask. Do you still have a question ?

[ no response}

Ok, I will assume.

Q: Yes I do have a question.

H: Ok you can go ahead and ask your question please.

Q07: Hello, Uhm with regards to the topic of psychedelics and this case plant medicine, uhm, I am feeling guided or have the desire if you will to guide others as a healer through their journey, and I would like to know if you have any recommendations as the for the best way that I can serve them in this capacity, for their highest good, for their highest healing, during the actual ceremony.

V: [41:36 41:36] We would say allow your intuition to communicate with theirs or what you would call potentially your soul, or your spirit, or your higher self, allow that to have the communication to ask directly to the beings that have come to you for this form of service or ceremony, allow yourself to detach, from the mental chatter, or mental framing, and have a soul conversation with each being, with whom you come into contact, we would suggest this to all of you, at all times, we know it is not your custom, to have these forms of conversation, but it is a practice that we suggest to you, for your relations, and your service to others, will be stronger, on all fronts, there is no particular ceremony, or suggestion for ceremony that will be more beneficial than the one that you have each of these beings who come to you, outline to you themselves, on a soul level, for that will be there greatest healing, you must remember than any form of healing, come from the one who is being healed, and not from the healer, and the healer, [that's into the role of 43:12 43:12] of the permission slip for that being to be healed in the way that is most beneficial to them. If you can respect your role as a healer, in this fashion, then you cannot come to error.

Q: Beautiful, thank you so much.

V: Thank you.

H: Michelle I believe you have a question ?

Q: I have two is that ok ?

H: You can begin and we will see where we are timewise. hee hee

Q: Ok ok.

Q08: So my first question is in regards to family dynamics, and what you may have to say on the changes that seem to occur, as one rises in consciousness with the family they were born into.

V: Changes only seem to occur, there is the chosen dynamic when one incarnates into a family, and so any interaction, with ones root family, is in part a contract that was decided or was/is decided. To further the growth path of all members involved. Whether one partakes on what is called a spiritual journey, and comes to different levels of understanding, the nature of what is called your reality, or whether they have other forms of changes, within their life, the development of one element, of a family group, as is the case with community as well, the development of one member, towards a positive growth, influences all other members towards a positive growth, even if it doesn't seem that that is the case, even if there is behavior that suggests that there has been turmoil or triggering occurring, in some of the other members, being triggered is always an invitation to heal and so when you see people around you being triggered by your growth and your stepping into knowing oneself, know that it is them having their own invitation to join you.

By healing what it is that your reflection is showing them, they have not yet looked at.

The lessons of love will and do resolve any sort of question in this avenue, for when one can see each other as their own divine and each others path as the most perfect path at that time, for that being, while maintaining their own path which at times is not a simple as it seems. Then what is closest to unconditional love can begin to take root, what is closest to divine love can begin to take root, and these rootings begin in the one that is doing the loving. They eventually reach out to the one that is being loved.

H: Michelle has that answered your question ?

Q: That was perfect.

H: Ok, I am going to allow two other questions and come back to you if time allows, ok ?

Q: No worries,

H: Thank you, Kelly you can proceed with your question please.

Q09: If someone is experiencing what they feel is an energy block in their body, what is the best way to resolve this?

V: [49:07 49:07] We have noticed that there are many energy blocks in many bodies, the body is only one aspect of you, we praise your physical vehicles we are in awe of them, we see the beauty in them that they do not see. But we know that they are not the full aspect of you. And in many ways, there is still a propensity towards focusing upon the body, as if it were some sort of hindrance to ones path, we would love to remind you that a blockage in your body no matter the discomfort level, no matter the distraction level, is in service to you, the block is there, blocking the energy, for you have not let learnt some lesson, often this lesson is directly related to the body, it is directly related to the appreciation of the body, it is directly related to the seeing that the body cannot limit you and seeing that one is not the body, there are many of you who want to have this lesson and see it 100%, 100% of the time without the blockage, eventually as the body, transforms itself and prepares to leave the physical realm, you would then have to face a departure, still believing that you are the body, if you have the opportunity of having a blockage earlier, and fully understanding and learning this, you will not have that same experience that many of you have towards the end of your human life.

We would also like to remind you that while you would like to clear blockages, everything is always and always will be in it's own time and with it's own pace and any sort of insistence is a form of believing that one knows better than 'what is'. And is a form of procrastination, from focusing on what is a more true subject to a being at any given point of time [52:40 52:40] When one is focused, on what is not working, they are not focusing on what is working. When one focuses on what is working, one cannot focus on what is not. This is the secret to your blocks.

H: Kelly has that answered your question ?

Q: Yes, Perfect thank you.

V: Thank you.

H: Thiis I believe you have a question ?

Q10: Yeah Hello, Can you guys hear me, Alright...

Q10: There is a being on this planet, his name is Cory Goode, and he claims to be in contact with the extra terrestrials, and according to him there will be a solar flash, or scientists call it a micronova, and this will appear in our near future, he says. Uhm Probably within the next 10 years and my question is, this solar flash, is it the same as the event that a Ra, describes in the books of the Law of One. As the harvest and also if this harvest will take place, what is the most probable time frame, for our planet at this time. That's it.

V: Yes, we will state that we are very cautious when talking about potential or probable futures as [ 54:58 54:58 ] it is of our intention to reinforce the knowing within each of every one of you, that it is your choice, whatever experience you have, in your existence, this is our primary teaching.

There is the potential for what you have explained, this being, recounts as there is the potential for any other experience, you specifically have focused upon this and similar experiences for there is some part of you, that is excited about it, and interested in it, and this is a path that we do not say you should not honor, in that we are not saying to drop these concept and we are not saying that these concepts are false, we are saying that it is your choice which and what of these concepts you would like to take with you.

There are parallels between the two sources, you have cited in this moment, but as they are two sources, there is no way for one third source, in this case, to confirm whether or not they are one and the same and the question we ask you would be, how many sources would you need, before your were to believe something, or continue to disbelieve it? This is a question you may ask yourself.


Q: ah ha

V: If you are searching for confirmation of one source, against another or with another. We do see the people of earth coming to tipping point, where there will be choices made and the choices will at times reflect more dramatic results for the choices that are being asked to make now, are choices that are more dramatic because you have placed yourselves in a corner with your indecision. There is both the possibility for a dramatic conclusion to that indecision and a very mild and tame continuation of the indecision and a beautiful, 'my little pony' conclusion,

[Laughter]

But we will reiterate that the choice is yours, each of you gets to choose, the unfolding of events, each of you gets to choose your role in the unfolding of the events, and with the question of ascension, we would just say that you are always ascending and there is no criteria for that, there is no conditionality, in your existence. You exist, you are part of the all that is, it is unnecessary to be anything other than what you are.

It is exciting though.

Juicy.

[Laughter]

Q: Yes.

V: We have to be careful or she will let go of the connection. Just to be angry with us.

[ Laughter]

Q: Thank you

V: Thank you.

H: So there are two questions from the channel that were submitted before the session are there time for two more questions ?

V: We would like to address the question from the questioneer earlier.

H: Ok Michelle, Are your still present. Would you like to ask your question please.

Q: Sure:

Q11: What do you have to say in regards to goal setting ? Long term goal setting from this present now moment and whether it is beneficial uhm, or more benefit, yes what do you have to say in setting long term goals ?

V: We would say that setting goals for the now is far more beneficial. If you set your now goals you will achieve each of your now goals and your long term goals will unfold, in a surprising way, that you could not have predicted, for example if you set the goal and make it a practice to be in your highest vibration in each subsequent now, it is impossible that you long terms goals will not be achieved all on their own. Faith is one of the greatest goal achieving skills that one can practice.

H: Michelle has this answered your question ?

Q: Beautifully.

V: Thank you. We will take one of the submitted questions.

Q12:Ok, so the first submitted question is: It seems to me that your messages are presenting a non dual to a still highly dualistic world... How relevant is it currently to discern between benevolent and malevolent actions and human beings? As various actions and behaviors that are not in the interest of the whole come to light, what could be an inclusive or holistic response, both on a personal and collective level? As we are all responsible for our choices, what is the benevolent response to a being who is or has made malevolent choices? And what should be our response when we are aware of a malevolent action taking place?

V: She is so wordy.

Q: Ah ha very, ha ha

[Laughter]

V: Our teachings yes, are what you would call non-dual as we do not see any form of malevolence. We see the ultimate result of what you would call malevolence on your planet. We see that all, ultimately, is of service however in the chess game that you are playing, we also see some violations, many unfortunately, violations of the free will and the honoring of other self.

The need to discern between malevolent and benevolent is not extremely high for many of you in many of your chosen themes however this skill is becoming more natural to you, and what is perhaps more useful to discern is whether or not any being or action is in resonance with your deepest heart.

We will assure you that even in the deepest heart, of which perhaps they do not have access, but your so called malevolent beings have a knowing that what they are doing is not resonant.

They have perhaps adopted a conditioning that allows them to believe that the benefit of what they are doing outweighs the, this resonance or discord, that that they have within themselves, however this discord when left unchecked, is precisely what then creates, the capacity for more of this form of behavior.

So it is a slippery slope, which is why, it is far more important to discern within oneself what their own behavior is doing within their heart than it is for one to discern the behaviors of another self.

In terms of the question... which was far more drawn out than need be, and was based more upon a understanding of how to, or a wanting to understand of how to, receive the information that is arising about some of the horrors and actions that have taken place covertly, on your planet, with love.

And so, or without judgement, for is it very easy to judge and again judgement does not resonate with one deepest hearts, so judging it itself, creates the possibility for that slope to be slippery, and one to fall down it.

So how does one look at the face of a perpetrator or a seeming perpetrator of an action that can be only be described as horrific and receive that without judgement ? This is the question.

Well one can't at first, if you are experiencing judgement, it is only because you have not practiced the very skill of non-judgement, and the first person that one should not judge, is this case is oneself.

So when you feel judgement arise, the first thing to do it to not judge yourself for judging.

The next thing to do is to zoom out and try to see the much much much larger picture, of how the actions of this individual have catalyzed many others to make there decision that this form of action will no longer be tolerated.

This is a positive outcome of a negative event. When you then look at the ripples of a event, you can see that often something that seems horrific or that is on a personal level horrific, has much larger positive effects, than something that was pleasant.

Something that was pleasant may remain pleasant and completely contained in itself, although of course that is not the case [1:09:08 1:09:08] because there are ripple effects to every action and every moment in what you call time.

If one is to see a being before them and ask them to be responsible for their actions and the negative outcome of their actions, one must also ask them to be responsible for the positive outcomes of their actions, and so, when one understands this one can see that any form of negative behavior that then leads to, positive behavior can only in the end be judged as positive.

The last part of the question, asks, how one is to act when there is something that is not working, someone who is behaving, malevolently, in one's field, and our suggestion would be to stop that being within the limits of protecting and always with a view, to respecting the free will in sovereignty of all those involved.

So, in the case of violence, if you are a witness to violence, the free will of sovereignty, is the safety of the person being subjected to the violence, and the safety of the person who has been subjecting the violence. [1:10:55 1:10:55]

It is not the right or will or desire of the one perpetrating the violence, to continue perpetrating the violence upon the person who has been subjected to it.

Does this make sense ?


H: Yes. Yes.

V: We will leave that discourse there.

If there is one more question from the group ?

H: There are no questions from the group presently, Petra did you have a question, I wasn't sure if you raised your hand. No there are no questions from the group.

There is one more from the channel from the previous which is short.

V: Yes we will take it.

Q13: What factors determine who comes in and out of our lives and how can we learn to see clearly the potential for growth in each relationship?

V: Juicy.

H: ha ha

[Laughter]

V: As you are all in the one before, a desire, for incarnation, there is the ability to incarnate with any aspect of the one, that will aid in the story line toward the growth that you are seeking, before your journey, every being that you encounter is your closest family on an energetic level, these beings every single one of them, is a unique portion of the same branch of consciousness that you have chosen to experience, even the simple fact, and we know that this does not come in your mind, that frequently, but the simple fact that you have decided to incarnate as human and we will not expand upon the other choices that you chose not to because they are beyond what you are currently imagining, to be galactic, there are incarnations that do not even involve universes, they are way beyond your scope of imagination, but the simple fact that these portions of consciousness have chosen to experience one another, makes each and every one of them so unbelievably precious, you have access to ones who as so like you, reflecting you in every moment. We know that there are a lot of terms that touch upon this idea, but they still touch upon it on a far smaller scale than what is the actuality. You have soul mates and kindred spirits and twin flames and cosmic families but you are not understanding how precious every single encounter you have is, how every hair, on every arm of every being that you encounter has been placed there for you to experience, we often come to the image of a woman in a checkout, the woman who scans the bar codes, you see her, everyday and she sees you everyday but you do not see each other.

We do not mean that you have to get into deep relationship with every being but we do mean that every being has the potential and is placed in your field for you to be able to learn from them, what it is, you came to learn from them specifically, and it is only up to you to choose, there will be beings in your field, that you will give more significance to, which will affect you more closely, which you will have, responses to, on an emotional or physical level and we say yes of course, you may pursue any of those and you will learn, much from those, but there are also these subtle relationships and your own influence upon those subtle relationships, that are equally essential to your complete life story. You are already in love with every being you meet, you have just forgotten.

That sensation of being in love, with someone, is not exclusive, it is 'what is', and we auger to any of you who are able to come to the full realization of that because your life will every more, be full of ecstasy.

With that we will allow you to interact with one another and leave you to your interpersonal relations. [1:18:07 1:18:07]

Goodnight.

H: Goodnight, Thank you.

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